Using Pace Figures

[shoeless]

Since the beginning of January I have been using CJ'S Figures[they are excellent] with Super Kgen and it has worked well for me.I get my contenders by using the top 4 pace horses in the race using the figs and then run them through KGEN[thanks to Ragin for turning me on to it].I have never seen any program hit as many longshots and exactas then Super KGEN.I will also corrolate other CJ numbers with the program.By doing this 6 week test it shows me that the 2 can be used in combination.I see many though that use just CJ'S Figs to hit it big,but I think that they are better interperting numbers then I am.

This is not an ad for CJ'S Figs as he is no longer offering the program.Im just reporting what I have found out.Jeff

[admin]

Hi Jeff

I think I will give KGEN a look

He probably will get mad at me and i hope this is cool
with mike at PA but My brother Joe Is Blind pursuit on PA
he is a fantastic Pick 4 player he is doing great
for real
He uses CJ's figures

[tom]

I think K Gen is the best program Doc ever put out before Validator et al.
The graphs make it very easy to see aberant lines and avoid them.

I would put in all lines for every horse that earned an 80 ( or 70, at cheaper tracks) no matter what the line looked like. Then throw out all the aberant lines, then use the top 3 early and top 3 late. Most times, this was not 6 horses.

Then, into T Mation, and use the 2 adjust if called for - assuming all the horses were true contenders. Did very well, but ohhhhh, that manual entry!

[grahors]

Greetings,
I too use CJ's figs....IMO, the most precise and best I have used.
I try to incorporate them into the Taulbot and Matchup methods. If I am careful and methodical, they work well....if not, well...figs and info are only aas good as the user...LOL.
I definately want to give K GEN a run around the block using CJ figs. It would be the first piece of Sartin SW I would be trying and I am anxious to get cracking on it.
Where is it available? Cost? What downloads does it use? etc....
I will also do some searches on the forum.
Thanks,
Cecil
Shoeless....I may need some help getting CJ figs into K Gen....we will talk once I get going..

[simon]

Tom and Cecil

Jeff is my inspiration I'm kind of sure Jeff hand enters lines
The thing about Jeff is he is a excellent contender/paceline
selector I bet he enters very few lines per race

Tom I hand enter lines for horse now and then
and I love the kgen graph lines You really can see a bad line


GS
RK

[shoeless]

Ragin,Thanks for the kind words and from your results you are no slouch either on paceline selection,I do just enter one paceline for each horse.Jeff

[shoeless]

Bill,I didnt realize your brother uses CJ'S figs,that's impressive that he is a fine pick 4 player.Jeff

[admin]

Originally Posted by shoeless

Bill,I didnt realize your brother uses CJ'S figs,that's impressive that he is a fine pick 4 player.Jeff

Yes we are very different Joe is a excellent handicapper
he bets his way pick 3's and Pick 4's
I bet two horse to win He can go a long time between wins I freak out after 3 race losing streaks

He wins lots of money I have fun and win some money

We both do pretty good

Bill

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by shoeless

Since the beginning of January I have been using CJ'S Figures[they are excellent] with Super Kgen and it has worked well for me.I get my contenders by using the top 4 pace horses in the race using the figs and then run them through KGEN[thanks to Ragin for turning me on to it].I have never seen any program hit as many longshots and exactas then Super KGEN.I will also corrolate other CJ numbers with the program.By doing this 6 week test it shows me that the 2 can be used in combination.Jeff

Jeff
Tremendous post! I am so glad things are going well for you.Keep it going strong now.

Richie

[gl45]

cecil,
are you a boxie students?