paceline selection

[5Chalky5]

Hi -

When trying to select the proper paceline, which of the following do you find more important beaten lengths, finishing position or time(fractions/final)?

Please feel free to share any other thoughts on this topic.

Kyle

[Bill V.]

D. All of the above
Bill

[Bill V.]

Really to not be a wise guy

A recent plus or plus within a zero race will generaly
have a competitive final time with few beaten lenghts
and a in the money finish position

[5Chalky5]

Bill -

Tanks for you reply and the additional information. You were just trying to say that they are all important factors.

I am not familiar with Average Purse Value and Class Factor, please explain more.

Kyle

[Bill V.]

Originally Posted by 5Chalky5

Bill -

Tanks for you reply and the additional information. You were just trying to say that they are all important factors.

I am not familiar with Average Purse Value and Class Factor, please explain more.

Kyle

Hi Kyle

Ted can explain this better than I,

He wrote this for the release notes for RDSS awhile ago



The APV and CR can be found on the entries screens
and the horses PP's

[5Chalky5]

Bill -

Thanks for the info this helps explain what APV and CR are about.

Kyle

[Segwin]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

A recent plus or plus within a zero race will generaly
have a competitive final time with few beaten lenghts
and a in the money finish position

Let a horses average purse value and or class factor determine how far back you go for a line

What are the parameters Bill? How far can you go back if the horse has a great APV? Conversely how far back if it dismal?

[dirty moose]

Nice posts Bill. Good info there.

[Bill V.]

Originally Posted by Segwin

What are the parameters Bill? How far can you go back if the horse has a great APV? Conversely how far back if it dismal?

Hi Terry

It dose little good to make parameters about AVP and Class.
The reason is because one race to the next offers such a wide range of apv - class horse in the match up.

Here is a race from Parx yesterday. In this race Number 2 had the lowest APV It only had a 65, but the highest APV horse number 9 only had a 102.




The 2 was one of the top 3 in class ratings But most important it had a plus race and fit the pace line guidelines, it won easy and paid $3.00.



Now lets look at Race 6 from yesterday Oct 15 2013.
You can see here the APV range is much wider and the horses have much higher APV's But this is the a much lower class race than Evolution Rock's race.



Horse 5 Bridled Energy is the top APV horse with a very high 284
But does that allow me to go back to line 7,
224 days ago ?. No, I would not because this horse does not show a + pace line in the guidelines posted here in the teaching area.
Bridled Energy won and paid its morning line odds of 4.5 = $11.00.



So in two races one winner had
a APV of 65 and 1 had a apv of 284

The apv and class are tools but its hard to make them rules. Its best to follow the pace line manual
and the guidelines from this thread and use your best decision making ability
The statement about letting the APV class rating helps in decisions but there were also no guidelines to exactly how far back to go as far as days since the last race. i believe a horse with a low APV and Class who is off a long layoff
and in a race with high apv - cr ratings is not a good bet.

[dirty moose]

Any new videos Bill?