Have trouble with these 2 conditions

[shoeless]

I always have trouble with these 2 condition races.I would like to know if
one is better then the other.

[tom]

Whats the diff?

[Rverge]

Originally Posted by shoeless

I always have trouble with these 2 condition races.I would like to know if
one is better then the other.

so both are now winners of a mile race in 6 mo's. BUT can have up to 3 wins in a sprint even @ 7f. basicly a now winners of 4 races. carded for MAYBE trainers/or/owners who want to see if horses can go routes.
this is how i read it. also purses are the same and i dont see a difference in distances. reads like mnr or ct kinda of a race. One can view the Bris power or whatever its called or Trackmasters CR.

[For The Lead]

This type of condition is an attempt on the part of the racing secretary to fill a race. There are two parts to the condition.

1 - a horse could have 100 wins at any distance as long as it hasn't won a race at a mile or more since July 14 (5 months)

OR...

2 - any horse that has not won 4 races lifetime at any distance at any time

If the race can't fill due to lack of horses that qualify on (1) then the race is open for horses that qualify on (2)

It doesn't go in that order. It is first come first serve.

[gl45]

some handicappers don't know why they are losing. Maybe they are playing the wrong races.

[benzer]

While looking at the current race conditions is certainly important. Look first at what the horse has done in the past in comparison to today's challenge. Young horses can improve, older horses not so likely. This all fits in with the current race conditions. Distance and surface can play a major role also.

Some tracks are increasingly trying to make their conditions harder to understand for whatever reason, in my opinion the conditions are becoming less relevant than they were in the past.

[mikesal57]

Originally Posted by benzer

While looking at the current race conditions is certainly important. Look first at what the horse has done in the past in comparison to today's challenge. Young horses can improve, older horses not so likely. This all fits in with the current race conditions. Distance and surface can play a major role also.

Some tracks are increasingly trying to make their conditions harder to understand for whatever reason, in my opinion the conditions are becoming less relevant than they were in the past.

I disagree with the "less relevant"...an astute trainer will find a a condition that his horse can win

mike

[Rverge]

Originally Posted by For The Lead

This type of condition is an attempt on the part of the racing secretary to fill a race. There are two parts to the condition.

1 - a horse could have 100 wins at any distance as long as it hasn't won a race at a mile or more since July 14 (5 months)

OR...

2 - any horse that has not won 4 races lifetime at any distance at any time

If the race can't fill due to lack of horses that qualify on (1) then the race is open for horses that qualify on (2)

It doesn't go in that order. It is first come first serve.

i agree ftl and i would view horses that have several wins or more in there record. thats a "rich perloff' angle

[benzer]

Originally Posted by mikesal57

I disagree with the "less relevant"...an astute trainer will find a a condition that his horse can win

mike

While that is true, many times it is obvious and there goes the value. Good trainers and good jockeys don't always bring their horses home in front.

Of course for the win slot looking at a recent $5,000 maiden claimer winner going against NW3L at $10,000 should cause one not to be eager to back that horse for the win. Again that is obvious.

Now for vertical wagers, these other horses can't be overlooked especially if you are looking to take down some of the bigger payoffs.

[shoeless]

You know what I screwed this up by posting the same thing twice