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Derby numbers
Interesting array of Derby winning numbers, without the names or years, are presented to show just how SIMILAR they are. Don’t these look a bit alike? They represent the energy numbers of the last three lines of the last several K Derby winners.
Dist total energy %med e/l 9 162.24 67.6 -16.3 8.5 164.98 67.8 -8.7 9 161.91 68.5 -2.9 9 161.95 67.5 -13.5 8.5 163.40 66.5 -27.5 8 160.79 67.7 -10.3 9 163.41 67.9 -12.1 This is the one that impressed me CONSISTENT 9 163.37 68 -10.5 8.5 163.47 66.8 -25.5 9 163.38 67.6 -13.5 8.5 163.00 68.1 -5.2 8.5 161.13 67.4 -16.4 9 162.54 66.9 -23 8 160.74 67.6 -12 8.5 160.73 68 -5.6 P.S. These are randomly displayed so they are NOT in any order. You want to see total go up and median to be in the right ball park. Last edited by Tim Y; 04-21-2008 at 03:54 PM. |
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How many years do you have of the Derby files/winner?
If it is more than what you show here could you please post all of the winner's last 3 races? In no particular order just like you have done here. Thanks
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All you need to know to evaluate the field are these numbers.
"Don't think, BLINK." Malcolm Galdwell. Bringing in all that extraneous material would dilute the nature of what this projects. This is what I found to be predictive and I am staying with them and nothing else. You have to look at them as stepping stones: the ones that can't make it the first Saturday in May have not matured in their ability to apportion their speed below a 68% median and if their last three preps are going down in total energy, they are also telling you that 10 furlongs is too far. Put each of the colt's last three in the incremental deceleration screen and it is also as predictive. Then put the field together with those that have met the criteria (and have at least 5 to 6 races -remember Curlin, and a few others who did not have the seasoning). Look at Fusichi, Funny Cide's and Giacomo's last several median's. Giacomo's 2nd back was his only one really out of range and threw me, and many others, off his path. |
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I asked a very simple request.I would like ALL the relevant info of Derby winners posted so folks here can make their OWN conclusions from data.
Can you help me?
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Here are a few that were too low:Afleet Alex and Sweenorthernsaint.
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Thank you for your help
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Bellamy Road: getting faster, but markedly EARLIER(above the guidelines). Not the pattern you want to see.
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Came Home: a good one but outside the guidelines as well: going UP in median as the distances increased.
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what were Barbaro's #s?
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