Race analysis another way

[Bill V.]

Hi I started a new thread with my own way of doing a race
Because I can Jim is making very nice videos of this same race.
and I don't want to jump on his thread.

I am sorry that I don't show many different screens
and I really don't go into great detail about the times and positions.
The reason I don't is, as for as I'm concerned, my work and handicapping
comes from my line selection.

I guess I'm not doing RDSS it due because I don't make horses
secondary contenders, I don't hide or eliminate horses and I only look at
2 or 3 screens, In the race I will show I did not enter a line for some horses,
To me they were not win candidates so I just don't enter a line for those non contenders .

Any way here is my way of doing a race,
It involves ...
Understanding the race conditions
Using recent + or (+) pacelines
Making visual running style notations
Looking at the original lines screens
Then looking at either BLBL or the segments screen

Hope you like the video
Bill
mnr 4.mp4

[Bill V.]

I wanted to make two screen caps from the video

Here is the segments screen. although the 4 is not a early horse
RDSS projects it to have the best first fraction and turn time
The 3 is the Early horse so it is going to use its energy to stay ahead of the
4. It did but the 4 had enough energy to pass it and win.

[dlivery]

Bill

Very nicely done.

Lawrence

[Bill V.]

Originally Posted by dlivery

Bill

Very nicely done.

Lawrence

I'm glad it was helpful
and you liked it

Bill, aka
William Lawrence Simon Varone

[Bill V.]

Here are the conditions, and entries screen
I have added the PP's with my pace line selection comments

[Bill V.]

5 6 7

[Bill V.]

For some reason my screen shot for horse 1 above has the 4th line selected.
I used the last line

[Because I Can Jim]

Bill,

Thanks for the video and the posting. It is much appreciated.

In doing this, everyone can see different approaches. One is not more right or wrong than the other. They are just different.

It also show that it is possible to have different approaches and still end up on the same horse(s).

What I found most interesting from your video is your reasoning for eliminating horse 5, how your choice of paceline selected changes the "look" of the Segments tab and, finally, how you go about your thought process in analyzing a race.

Lastly, you made one video about 11 minutes long. Don't you agree it is really tuff to make short videos? You have got so much going on in your mind that you want to blurb out, yet, you are always watching the clock. I hope that this does not deter you from making other videos and making mutliple parts if necessary to be able to more fully explain your thinking about a race.

I also hope that in my or your making multiple videos, it does not deter people from watching them! LOL

Anyway, thanks for this. It is good to see a bit of ying against the yang so that new people especially can see that there really isn't just "One Way" of doing things.

Jim

[Because I Can Jim]

Ohhh... and just one last thing.... I almost forgot.....

Your showing the TRP+E/L tab points out somethign very interesting that I had not considered.

Look at the 3 horse. When you look at his past performances, it looks soooo early. Yet, when looking at the tab, the energy expenditure was so late at 12.0 in its last line. We both went back one line, albiet for different reasons. I have an affinity for energy versus say velocity. This is a good example of how things are not necessarily what they appear to be. Don't you agree?

[Bill V.]

Thank You Jim

Yes I know what you mean, If I make the video too long, sometimes its hard
to upload and then I have to have Ted's help.

As you heard I'm thinking about the time and I do get nervous,

Anyway I'm glad you liked the video. I would make more but I think my
way of doing races does not make a good video because I really don't use RDSS to its full extent.

As far as the Early Late graph on the TPR screen, I have used the Early Late graph since it first
became part of the methodology. I use it as a visual, Its easy for me to see
energy excretion figures in the various lines and I can spot lines which are
not typical, Ted did a good thing by letting us see the + races color coded
and the early late graph on the same screen as the pace lines