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04-16-2007, 09:08 AM | #1 |
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Apv And Class Importance
HELLO, ALL I'M BACK. TED HELP ME GET THE NEW SPEC160 PROGRAM AND I STARTED USING IT 4/15/07. I WAS READING SO OF THE OTHER POST AND CAN ACROSS POST ABOUT APV/CLASS NUMBER. I DID THE LONE STAR CARD AND ALSO DRUG OUT MY OLD PHASE 3 PROGRAM AND DID APV/CLASS NUMBERS. DID I LOOK AT THEM BEFORE PUTTING HORSES IN...NOT! DID I DO WELL AT LONE STAR I'LL POST SOME OF MY RACE'S LATER. HERE IS MY QUSTION: HOW IMPORTANT ARE DOING AND USING CLASS/APV?
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04-16-2007, 10:42 AM | #2 |
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Storm,
Horses that don't have the money normally don't win the races. If you don't do the APV you can still be a winner, but when you have just lost a race and go back and look at the numbers and find you had your money on the lowest APV you'll feel pretty stupid. Follow Admin's posts and you will see he does them like bringing silverware to the table before dinner. One doesn't need any silverware to eat with but it makes it a lot easier. Then check and see what his ROI is. Froggy |
04-17-2007, 07:09 PM | #3 |
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APV/ CLASS AND LONE STAR 6th ON 4/15/2007
HERE ARE THE APV FOR THE 6th RACE AT LONE STAR ON 4/15/07 I WON THIS RACE. WITH SPEC 160 . MAYBE SOME ONE CAN LOOK AT THESE APV/CLASS NUMBERS FROM MY OLD PHASE3 PROGRAM. AND TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD USE THIS INFORMATION. I HAVE ALSO ADDED THE RESULTS.
THANKS FOR THE HELP. AMF!!!!! 1APV:108.1 CLASS:1.20 2APV:94.3 CLASS:0.82 3APV:323.2 CLASS:2.12 4APV:1.64.0 CLASS:1.48 5APV:143.5 CLASS: 1.48 6APV:114.7 CLASS: 1.19 7APV:74.1 CLASS :0.73 8APV:67.3 CLASS : 0.69 9APV:70.7 CLASS :0.75 10APV:95.7 CLASS :0.90 11APV:117.6CLASS :0.88 12APV:111.1 CLASS : 0.87 |
04-17-2007, 07:14 PM | #4 |
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6th AT LONE STAR 4/15/07 SPEC160
Here Is One Of The Two Screens I Used To Win This Race. I Let The The Per1 Pick The Lines And Used Bottom Line Betting Reduce The Field To Six. Have A Look. Amf!!!
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04-17-2007, 07:31 PM | #5 |
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04-17-2007, 07:32 PM | #6 |
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6th AT LONE STAR 4/15/2007 WITH SPEC160
Here Is The Second Screen That I Used To Win This Race. What Does Mug, Cbl, And L/r Mean? And Does Anybody Use This Screen. Ok Time To Go Do Yard Work. Thanks. Amf!!!!
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04-17-2007, 07:57 PM | #7 | |
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MUG is Match Up Graph I have no versions of spec on my laptop that i'm using Here is the incremental Match Up Graph from validator from the same race Look around on spec and tyou should see a similar screen The MUG readouts on the screen your showing are probably the 3rd Fraction + Total pace panel readouts CBL = I need help on this one myself |
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04-17-2007, 10:36 PM | #8 | |
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Great to see you off to a fine start with Spec! Bill explained MUG (Match Up Graph, Screen #3, 3rd panel rankings). The MUG shows velocity ranks for F1, 2nd Call and the combination of F3+True Speed in panels 1, 2 and 3 respectively. (This same screen in Validator shows the V/dc ranking in panel 3). CBL refers to Screen 4, Match Up showing Computed Beaten Lengths, the Final column ranks. The info on this screen has sometimes been referred to in days past as the Dream Race, as it shows the difference between the fastest horse and each other horse at F1, 2nd call point and Final, with units of measure showing beaten lengths (using the fixed beaten length value used by Spec). On the Summary Screen you showed, CBL refers to the Computed Beaten Lengths at the Final point (i.e. the end of the race). The 2nd column (2nd Call Beaten Lengths, or SCBL) on the CBL screen is the same value shown on the BL/BL Superscreen under the column SCBL, where it is rounded to 1 decimal. In Validator, only the SCBL is shown (on the BL/BL Superscreen) and it uses a slightly different formula but the concept is the same and the Beaten Length differences between horses should be about equivalent. In RDSS, this info is shown on the Segments screen. I'm not sure which column you refer to by L/r ?? Hope that helps. Ted
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04-18-2007, 12:46 AM | #9 |
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Storm,
On screen #8 where the print out shows L I R instead of LSD, it is only a programming error. The line separating LSD and R didn't get properly spaced during programming and the SD is eliminated when you print it out. It is just moved over that's all. LSD is an acronym for "Long Shot Detector" and is the total of the numbers on screen #5. As for your APV/CLASS figures they are only a guide. Most bombs seem to come from low numbers as in your race. When you printed out screen #8 you saw an earnings per start chart. To save time I sometimes just use the figures in the program and eliminate the lowest 40%. Ten horses in the race I throw out the lowest four. I try to balance the current year with sprint races or route races depending what kind of race I am doing. Your own judgement must be used and as you learn the better you will get. Look at Bill's post today on the race at Tampa. I belive you will find it very informative. I find Turf races to be very sensitive to APV I think Bill has a video that explains how he does his APV. I'm sure he'll point you in the right. direction. It is also explained in the old and new Yellow Manuals. You don't learn unless you ask questions. We were all new at one time. I know I am still learning. Good Luck Froggy Last edited by froggy; 04-18-2007 at 12:53 AM. |
04-18-2007, 01:01 AM | #10 |
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Jim,
"Per I" refers to screen #6 which is the Perceptor screen. This is where I each horse is ranked on each of his individual read outs and a number/percentage is assigned to each read out and then totaled up for a final ranking A very good screen, very useful. Froggy |
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