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Old 04-30-2014, 09:06 AM   #1
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Calculating TPR

I am working on calculating TPR, and got lost in the math.
Let me start with EPR
2nd call 45.3 the EPR is 92 - 1 1/2 BL = 91

LPR
1:11 time is 71 sec. - SC 45.3 = 25.7 is LRP 81
plus 1 length ahead= LRP (FFP) 82

If Tres Belle was a SP why such a good EPR and low LRP

TPR is 174

any help would be great.
Thanks
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:08 AM   #2
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Hi Don

I have a couple of questions

How are you figuring the the TPR in regards to the track to track and daily track variant ?

Second were are you seeing Tres as a SP ?

It looks like a presser to me The last line it was 4th
but against a much fast POR than its other races were it was closer to the pace


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Old 04-30-2014, 12:52 PM   #3
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Hey Bill, Yes sorry he is a presser,
Im talking TPR in regards to the track to track and daily track variant.
I am keeping a model from the result charts after the race has run

and my other Handicap Profile is before the race was run. That's the info I have before the race.

I also keep a betting model

I am still trying to find record keeping that works for me. The info Im seeking
it for track profile, I thought it would be good to know what the real TPR of the race was. Do you agree?
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:02 AM   #4
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Records are good

hey Don

All records are helpful, so good for you that you are doing your work.

I find that of the 4 readouts of phase 1 I kept track of
EP, LP, TPR and the E/L difference, I find the E/L difference
to be the most helpful followed by the LP or FFR
I don't really track or try to figure the TPRs anymore but I am glad
I did at one time. Now that I understand what RDSS is doing with the phase 1 numbers I just go with them. They really only apply as each race match up dictates.

Hey Don or anybody

Looking at this screen, one of these horse's went wire to wire
and paid $17.00 can you spot who it is

was it horse A.B.C.D,E or F?

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Old 05-01-2014, 04:03 PM   #5
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Thanks Bill, how do you record the E/L diff. Do you use the number in the bar?

Wire to wire is C 85.8 and 84.2


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Thanks Bill, how do you record the E/L diff. Do you use the number in the bar?

Wire to wire is C 85.8 and 84.2


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Hi Don

I found the best thing for me is to go with the readout from the pace line I used.
I think it works better than figuring the Phase 1 from the result chart, Either way has its advantages,

Now as for as the wire to wire question, I think you need to look again

its was not horse C. If you truely are using phase 1
How can horse C go wire to wire when its pace line puts it 3 to 4 legnths
behind almost all the other horses.

Please take a close look at what the Phase 1 screen is showing you
Ted has done a fantasic job with the structure of this screen.
It tells you pretty much the complete Phase 1 method.
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Well Animated looks like a improving horse after all, ran a good race against a horse with a much higher seep rating. Good line selection! With my pace line she's more than likely not a contender!!

Waiver claimer long layoff, can't be claimed?

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Old 05-21-2014, 10:48 AM   #8
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Waiver claimer long layoff, can't be claimed?

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good work Also

The "waiver" horse has to be running back for the same price/class as its' last race OR higher.

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Bill, Thanks

I enjoyed the She's Animated post!

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Del race 4

She's Animated ran again yesterday at Delaware The track was sloppy

This time there was another E7 in the race - Horse 5
She's Animated was in Post 1 so I considered the chance that
she would either break first and get the lead or that the 5 would also try for
the lead and use too much energy early.

# 7 Barbs Beauty is also a early type but being on the outside
Maybe she would hold back and let them go I used line 1 Its a + line but also a trouble line , I figured she would be in position 3 again today
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Here is the Phase 1 screen

Look how # 1 has the best EPR rating. Horse 5 is in trouble right here.

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Horse 1 She's could go wire to wire. If she fails who will catch her ?
That is the decision. Is it horse 7 or 4.
At this point I would go to thoromation but just using Phase I
I would look at total pace and total energy and energy excretion. Once again thank you to Ted for putting everything in Phase 1 on one screen.

Horse 7 and 4 are tied on TPR but horse 7 has a 2 point advantage on
total energy. As for as energy horse 4 and 7 both use there energy
more early than late If horse 4 had the same readouts but had a higher
lp than ep I would have bet the 4

The phase 1 bets here would be 1 and 7 split 60/40

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