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Old 06-23-2016, 11:45 AM   #1
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Barb's Learning Experience with RichieP

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5881

I am new to RDSS and the Sartin Methodology, but I'm doing the things that Ted and others have recommended. For example, the "Follow Ups" are my bedtime reading these days. I have also read a lot of posts on this forum and I'm keeping the 20-race-cycle Wagering Decision Forms that Doc Sartin so highly recommended.

Quite by accident, I came across this thread by Barb Craven. It's an old one and not easy to find, but it's excellent for a newbie like me. I guess I'm posting it because I don't want it to get lost and I commend it to all my fellow newbies.

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Old 06-23-2016, 01:32 PM   #2
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Hey there,

The link won't work, you have one too many http:// in it.

BTW, is there a way to export the data directly from RDSS2 into a Wagering Decision Form?

Thanks,

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Old 06-23-2016, 06:40 PM   #3
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Sorry about that.

Let's try:
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5881
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:22 PM   #4
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Hi Mick
Barb and I are on the phone right now talking about this thread, wow from 7 years ago!!

You know there is a LOT of good stuff here and we are talking about getting together for a couple of "sessions" working races the way that is described above! *** Lol my wife Karen just put Barb and I together for a "session" next Sunday July 3rd!! OMG the gals are tough!!!!

The main difference is that Barb NOW is like 10 levels higher in her capping and most importantly WAGERING skills!

I think the "teacher" is about to learn from the "student" !

Hey if its cool maybe we will put up the races, thoughts, etc we work next week using the exact process laid out in the thread!

All the best Mick
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:37 PM   #5
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Joy

Really enjoyed reading this thread!

Very educational

Thank you Barb and Richie for collaborating to make for a very interesting read.

Best,

Paul Link
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:38 PM   #6
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Eight straight!

Richie,

It's gracious and generous of you and Barb to share your knowledge, especially with beginners like me. After I read and re-read her original post, trying to absorb everything I could, I downloaded her WDFs, made a couple of changes, and have been using the modified version fastidiously.

And now, over a two-day span, yesterday and today, I hit eight straight races! That has never happened with me before and you and Barb had much to do with it.

RDSS is an amazing tool but it requires some operator know how. I have very little of it and I truly appreciate you and Barb sharing yours.

With gratitude,
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Old 07-03-2016, 12:04 PM   #7
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Woodbine July 3rd

Talking with Barb working the Woodbine Card for today:

Race 1 - Barb scrolled the field (5f MSW , turf) first feeling was most horses only have 1 or 2 lines, not playable as she is uncomfortable with what she is seeing. PASS

Race 2 - Barb scrolled the field twice before doing anything regarding line selection, contenders etc. No major issues, comfortable about picking lines.
Pacelines chosen:
Horse 1 - line 7
Horse 2 - line 3
Horse 3 - line 1
Horse 4 - line 2
Horse 5 - line 3
Horse 6 - line 2
Horse 7 - line 3

Barb dropped the 1,2,5 to secondary contender status (she used the RX factor in her version of RDSS to hide and reduce these to non contender for WIN) *** I do not have this version so can't see what she was doing**

Win Contenders in order on her "RX" readout:
6-3-4-7

** Barb notes that the #4 and #6 are counter energy runners in her top contender mix. **

** Barb will use post time odds and the layout in this thread as far as betting decisions to wager using her "RX" contenders in order instead of Bl/BL.She has a note saying if the odds are good the #3 will definitely be one of her 2 win bets
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Old 07-03-2016, 12:10 PM   #8
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Woodbine July 3rd

Race 3 - Barb has her notes saying too many horses with only 1 running line - PASS

Race 4 - 6f Turf sprint (G2) scratches down to 6 runners, Barb does races with minimum 7 betting entries - PASS
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Old 07-03-2016, 12:13 PM   #9
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Woodbine July 3rd

Race 5 - Maiden race scratches down to 8 runners but Barb notes too many horses with only 1 or 2 lines including some of the favorites. She likes at least 3 pacelines for the runners (right out of Doc's Followups). PASS
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Old 07-03-2016, 12:36 PM   #10
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Woodbine July 3rd

Race 6 - a nice stakes race going 8f on the grass. Barb scrolled the field twice just looking, then marking running styles and picking pacelines. She feels comfortable with playing the race and hiding using her "RX" tab she hides down to her top 4 contenders for the win which are in order: 1-5-2-9.

She feels the 1 is going to be heavily bet, leaving her other 3 contenders at nice prices. Barb has the #5 as definitely one of her bets, she is looking to play this race!

As far as counter energy runners Barb has the #'s 3 and 4 as counter early, however she has them as NON contenders for the WIN leaving OTE as the winning "Style" for this race.
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