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Old 11-04-2007, 08:44 AM   #1
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Dream Race Velocity Pars

Does anybody know in what FU'S this is written about?I used to have an index but now unable to find it.Thanks Jeff
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:58 AM   #2
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Hi Jeff

I found this for you
More about Deleration pars But the late 20 mid 30 range maybe

Also in follow up 27 there is something about a velocity parmaker program
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:03 AM   #3
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Bill,Thanks but I was looking for the velocity pars they are the ones with F 1,2,3 and SC.The deceleration pars I believe are different.Jeff
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Hi Jeff
check your email I hope it helps
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:20 AM   #5
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Bill,Thanks.They were in the Entropy program so I will look there.Jeff
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:19 AM   #6
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Dream Race Velocity Pars

Shoeless....

Check out the 3 part series written by Howard:

FU 29 pages 4-20

FU 30 pages 13-24

FU 31 pages 15-30

Those are excellent articles that I have studied many times. The 2nd one in particular gets right to the bottom of how things get adjusted (see page 19).

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Old 12-03-2007, 07:39 AM   #7
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Greetings Guys...........

I think we've all been down the "pars" route (!!), either for contender purposes or to adjust pacelines. Or both. My opinion is that pars almost have the opposite effect on paceline adjustments -making things less clear. A lot of winners win because they exceed par in some portion of the race. And when you adjust to those pars, you slow down that very element.

Like most of you, I've spent many late nights trying to satisfy in my mind just what the most effective way is in dealing with these questions. Or put another way, I had to verify for myself that Howard's concepts were they way to go. And the basic concept (in the Par articles mentioned above) is that horses don't run to man made pars, they run based on the today's contention and today's energy level. And every race is different. So after getting contenders and pacelines, we then adjust using the dream race of the given contenders (pacelines). And if done correctly, that will reveal who has the best chance to win.

The next question would be "how do I do it? " But really, that whole process is in most Sartin programs starting back with Energy and maybe earlier.

Your thoughts....??

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Greetings Guys...........

I think we've all been down the "pars" route (!!), either for contender purposes or to adjust pacelines. Or both. My opinion is that pars almost have the opposite effect on paceline adjustments -making things less clear. A lot of winners win because they exceed par in some portion of the race. And when you adjust to those pars, you slow down that very element.

Like most of you, I've spent many late nights trying to satisfy in my mind just what the most effective way is in dealing with these questions. Or put another way, I had to verify for myself that Howard's concepts were they way to go. And the basic concept (in the Par articles mentioned above) is that horses don't run to man made pars, they run based on the today's contention and today's energy level. And every race is different. So after getting contenders and pacelines, we then adjust using the dream race of the given contenders and with total energy. And if done correctly, that will reveal who has the best chance to win.

The next question would be "how do I do it? " But really, that whole process is in most Sartin programs starting back with Energy and maybe earlier.

Your thoughts....??

Chuck
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:00 AM   #9
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from the horse mouth:
"most of the clients are adjustment happy...."
MU doesn't require any adjustements. No track to track, no variants, no slop, no mud, no trainers, no jocks, no class. No RULES
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from the horse mouth:
"most of the clients are adjustment happy...."
MU doesn't require any adjustements. No track to track, no variants, no slop, no mud, no trainers, no jocks, no class. No RULES
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Adjustment-correction-tweaking-modification-change is always done even with the MU. In MU it is called Voodoo. When you decide to use one pace line over the other especially if the latter is less in TS/TE/SR the effect is a change for had you picked the better rated pace line the horse might have come out on top. When you decided to leave out certain entries as non contenders that is also a change since had they been left in again the outcome could have been different. As far as I am concerned there is some adjustment in each race that we handicap but many times it is intuitive (pace line selections that loom up at you) or other times it is called other things such as Voodoo.

Too much adjustment is no good but there has to be just that right mixture of correction or tweaking to what is shown in the past performances at certain times to come up with an advantage or better yet the right choice. Just what and how much change is needed remains elusive at least to me for now.

Just one opinion--Thanks,

Robert
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