Pizzolla window scores again with standout

[Tim Y]

6th race - Fort Erie - June 02, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
4 Silver Strip 12.40 5.00 4.60
3 Chemistry Class 7.20 4.80
10 Another Ascot 4.30

[grahors]

Tim,
Pizolla Window?? Can you explain? I have read Handicapping Magic and can't recall.
Thanks,
Cecil

Can you also relate it to the screen shot....thanks.

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by grahors

Tim,
Pizolla Window?? Can you explain? I have read Handicapping Magic and can't recall.


Can you also relate it to the screen shot..

Unlike the dirt, one goes through the BEST lines of the past 10 for turfers. The incremental screen is where all turfers show their dominance: LATE.

[Ted Craven]

Same info different view. Also, top rated BL/BL when eliminate down to top 5 Total Energy. #6 Trigon is not a logical candidate for Win with such poor Late figures. RDSS Segments screen shows same as Spec160 Incremental screen (sorted differently here).

I agree: use Turf lines from the entire PPs, especially if a horse is showing any signs of life, or back class (winner was 2nd Class horse - green).

Nice Exacta and Trigexcta in top 2 and top 4 respectively.

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

Same info different view. Also, top rated BL/BL when eliminate down to top 5 Total Energy. #6 Trigon is not a logical candidate for Win with such poor Late figures.

You have to understand the normality of Fort Erie: they have very few legitimate turfers so early often does well or their course.

[Ted Craven]

So, 'all Turfers show their dominance: Late' and at the Fort Erie turf course, 'Early often does well'. That about covers it...

Ted

[gl45]

Cecil,
it seems you're studying some of RT, from the selected pacelines.....I love it.

[grahors]

Pino,
Back in the saddle again...heehaaa. Feeling good, bud.
In maiden races, I have had good luck by not putting any filters on the software and letting it find the best "pace of race" for each horse. as long as the horsie has shown some sign of life in that race.
Other races, I do filter for relative distance and surface and let fly...sometimes crawling into the wayback mobile....
Cec
Been doing alot of Taulbot reading.....love his style and "old" ideas.....

[Tim Y]

Ray Talbout and Huey Mahl knew what to study long before most.....Most (outside of the Sartinites) still don't know the keys to understanding the interactions of pace.........

[gl45]

Cecil,
glad to see you're doing fine. I don't play Maiden, never been succesfull at them. I have been reading a lot as well. I did find RT approach to pace, quite similar to the MU concept. Everything seems to evolve arround the horse best race in his past performance compared to the most recent races. RT called back class. If the horse doesn't show any improvement in the recent races, closer to his best, the horse is out. I'm wondering if this the approach the the HAT used in eliminate horses. RT uses the last two or three races to see if the horse is in an improving mode, he does this, by using his angles approach. Front running, early speed, positions and gaining lengths, stretch gain, fast races, slow races, speed ratings, workouts, trainer intents, etc....
As you can see some of these so called angles, are actually an indication how the horse did perform recently. I'm no telling you anything new, you know the routine. If only my friend Jeff would start to read RT.....