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Old 03-03-2011, 09:48 AM   #1
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Friday- 3/4 - Mnr Sprint - "E" Runners present

This is the 8th at Mountaineer on Saturday night. 6f on the dirt
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:51 AM   #2
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:52 AM   #3
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:00 AM   #4
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The Mind's Eye Primer

This taken directly from the "Mind's Eye" intro thread:
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3717

If you are so inclined try it as it hopefully will "prime" your thought processes for this race.


Once again this is optional and ALL feedback and participants are WELCOME here
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:10 AM   #5
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Arrow Mhr r8

Ok, I will give it a try...I am a first time starter trying to break my maiden.


1 E 23.8
2 E 22.2
3 E 22.2
4 P
5 E 22.4
6 P
7 P
8 P
9 P
10 P

I predict that the race will be won by: "E"

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Old 03-03-2011, 01:34 PM   #6
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my thoughts so far...

1 - E 23.8 but has won as sustained AND Presser
2 - E 22.2
3 - E 22.2
4 - P
5 - E 21.7
6 - P
7 - P And S
8 - P
9 - E 22.8
10 - P

I think the race will run OTE

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Old 03-03-2011, 08:37 PM   #7
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1 pre
2. Early 22.4
3 Early 22.3
4. SUS
5. EArly 22.5
6. Pres
7. Sus
8. Pres
9 Pres
10 Pres
Race will go OTE other than early
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:33 PM   #8
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Running Styles / Projected Pace:
There are multiple horses who figure in the early mix today. #3 and #5 either need to be on the lead or fighting for it in order to win. They both come from Beu races with fast 1C’s. Both have Mnr races as well. Based on those races I’m projecting a 22.2 or 22.3 (fifths) pace today.

Early or OTE:
I don’t think either will be able to win a duel and win this race. I’m looking for a horse that can run well from 3rd position or further back against a 22.2 or 22.3 1C and win this race OTE.

Match Up:
1- Has won or done well wtw, or from 2nd or 3rd position as well as from 7th. I think CT is a slow track but I can’t take this horse off those times…OUT
2- Has won from 1st 2nd and 5th. Last out, won against a 22.1 1C. Two other wins vs a 22.2 1C…Contender
4- OTE runner coming off a nice win at CT. Nice races from 3rd, 4th, 7th and 8th
position. The power line is line 9…Contender
6- Has won from 2nd and 4th position. That was long ago and more
recent races vs 22-and-change have not been so good. OUT
7- Won last race fighting all the way. Going back for a power line
the best I find is line 3…Contender
8- Pressed the pace last out against a mid 22 1C. I used line 2 as the power
line…Contender
9- Last two races are ugly, I can’t go back past them…OUT

I’m left with these, fractions in tenths:
#2 22.2 45.8 58.6 111.7 2-1 1-hd 1-hd 1-1.8
#4 22.5 45.7 57.9 110.6 3-1.5 2-hd 1-hd 1-1.8
#7 22.4 46.2 59.3 112.4 3-2.1 3-3 2-1 1-3
#8 22.4 46.6 59.8 113.5 3-2.1 3-.6 1-3 1-5

#2 and #4 separate themselves from the pack, and between the two I will take #4 to win the race.
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:44 PM   #9
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The track is muddy

Scratches are the #3 and #4
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:20 PM   #10
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And the 7 most recently scratched....

With the scratches there is still some early pressure from the 5. The 2 has won four in a row and broke from the gate 2-2-1-4. the five broke 1-4-1-4-1 in its last 5 and only won when it fought for the lead. With the sloppy track this one might get to the lead first vs the 2 but the 5 can't keep up with the 2's turn time of 24.0 or less and persevere to the finish. If the 5 bothers the 2 early, the 2 can still finish in 105.8 or .9.

I think the dynamics of this race have changed and the 2 should wire the field with the 8 closing. 8 has been off 83 days and its last is its best. If he can repeat that race he probably wins here.

Still don't know how to rate the 1 off only CT races. IF SOMEONE COULD POST THE ADJUSTED SCREENS FOR THE 1-2-8 THAT MIGHT CLEAR MATTERS UP a little bit.

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