Original PP Layout - Tune Up?

[Ted Craven]

Some ideas. Too much information? Comments?



Ted

[Bill V.]

Hi Ted

I like the 30 day marker idea

Bill

[clore1030]

The days off indicator is fine, but for the adjusted speed rating, just having them in bold is enough for me.

[stormbringer]

I like that it would be helpful to me.

[RichieP]

if it is the "original" screen i would get rid of all adjusted data, using raw toally unadjusted data (por, poh te etc)

there are 20 other screens to show adj stuff

original should be exactly that - data unmassaged by algorhytms,rounding, variants etc

layoff markers are tremendous addition!

thanks

[Pat C.]

I agree with Richie. A Plain Jane screen w/o adjustments would be a great help in Matching the Hat's way. Lets you see from where you came on the other adjusted, manipulated screens.

Pat

[El Santo]

If you want raw data, go buy a Racing Form.

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by El Santo

If you want raw data, go buy a Racing Form.

Nice sound byte.

New Pace has its own screen and is visible on other screens, has absolutely nothing to do with the Sartin Methodology.

Jim Lehane has stuff from his Calibration Handicapping on screens now, nothing to do with Sartin Methodology (however imo HIGHLY recommended and Mr. Lehane is a complete class act, winning player and capper)


Now Jim "The Hat" was Doc's right hand man, confidant, programmer and world class player. There is a memorial tourney going on featuring his picture along with Doc's to draw people to this site. He gave hundreds of hours to folks here free offering guidance and a true insight to how he works his magic. His work and "Hat Check" Forum draws folks here like bees to honey and he offered his 5-step approach (cornerstone of his Matchup2 book selling for hundreds of dollars) to us FREE.

He used raw data and the ONLY reason he wanted me working with the program (he hated the use of tenths of a second when matching)was because I could access ONE screen with "all the adjusted crap" (his words) gone. Sorry but now putting adjusted speed ratings, adjusted total energy,adjusted pace of race on the ORIGINAL screen is ,,,,,,,,,,,

Should us "Matchers" do what you say and "go buy a Racing Form"?

Nice sound byte

[SilentRun]

I personally reference the ORIGINAL AND ADJUSTED DATA but I primarily pick my lines using the ADJUSTED data. Hence I am strongly against eliminating the adjusted data.

For those users who have no use for the adjusted that's fine....but that does not mean it should be eliminated. The adjusted data serves a purpose for those members who wish to use it (and several members already expressed their positive opinions regarding the Adjusted Data) hence it is only fair that the adjusted data be presented going forward. "live and let live" applies here.

Ernie

[Bill V.]

Once again ....

Great commentary Rich I'm with you on that subject ..

Markers..

From Pace Makes The Race -An Introduction To The Sartin Methodology
page 79 Michael Pizzola,

"Layoffs and layoff patterns are by far the most complex and, in my
opinion, the most profitable patterns in all of thorobred handicapping.
First, let me define a layoff as a period of thirty days or more between races.
There are long layoffs and short layoffs. Tom Brohamer, in Moder Pace Handicapping,
calls these short periods of 4 weeks "freshenings".
The first thing I like to do is note if there is a layoff somewhere in
the horses last three or four pacelines. If the last race was the race which"put
the horse in the barn" for a period of thirty days or more , we must answer
this question: How will the horse run after a layoff? .....
In my experience, the best indication that a horse will be able to run well
after a layoff is that he has done so succesfully in the past,"


Bill