PIM May 18 - Preakness & Undercard races

[Ted Craven]

Getting this out of the way early! The Preakness Stakes - I have little clue I would not be surprised to see Itsmyluckyday run better than in the Derby. Every horse will be at good enough odds for bettors to try something because of Orb's EVEN or less odds and the public desire for another Triple Crown winner, regardless of the other horses' merits. Repeat after me: 'we have seen this kind of thing before ...'

I prefer to make some money betting, if I can. If there is something available while allowing that Orb may well win it all today, I will try. Otherwise, I will cheer.



Focusing on the Pimlico undercard races today, and maybe a few from Woodbine.

Good luck to all!
.

[Ted Craven]

9-7-5 (with some respect for 8 at the odds ... and tied #1 EPR)

[Ted Craven]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

9-7-5 (with some respect for 8 at the odds ... and tied #1 EPR)

Race #2 Result: 9-7-5-10. Not much money there.

Re Preakness - not only do I respect Doc's guidelines, the Derby race did not even come up for most horses as a good recent line. Still baffling. If the mists clear, I'll report in

Ted

[lone speed]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

Race #2 Result: 9-7-5-10. Not much money there.

Re Preakness - not only do I respect Doc's guidelines, the Derby race did not even come up for most horses as a good recent line. Still baffling. If the mists clear, I'll report in

Ted

The paceline of the Derby distance has never been a strong line to compare contenders thru mist of Sartin programs. With the upmost respect to Sartin's guidelines, imho, We can follow Jim Bradshaw's "Marathon Method" to capitalize on the confusion of the mass.

We extract the mile fractions of the Derby paceline...

Fractions: 22.57. 45.33. 109.80. 136.16

Running lines of contenders:

My lute. 12. 19.75. 15.25. 7.25

Orb. 10. 18.75. 14.5. 4.5

Oxbow. 1.75. 5.5. 3.5. .5

Itsmyluck. 2.25. 7. 7.75. 6


Some of us can enter these pacelines into Thoromation, the race should come up Exdc...
Top two on exdc should be Oxbow and Itsmyluck...

I want to stress that I am a lifelong student of the game and the methodology...

I am just sharing my thoughts and I look forward to feedbacks...

[Bill V.]

I can't change how people read instructions
I can't change how people hear instructions
I can understand how people can ignore my post
But I can not understand how people would ignore Ted and FTL
FTL clearly points out on many occasions that
as per the Pace Line manual
The Last line is the line UNLESS THERE IE A VALID EXCUSE

I can't think of a more valid excuse than one of the very few RULES!!!

Please listen to this clip with Doc and Aline Best

DocAline.mp4


I am the idiot around here but I hear and read what Doc says
and follow those guidelines and in this case RULES.

I may have missed it but please if you can and care to invest the time. Please point me to some manual, folllow up article or audio clip where Doc or Jim Bradshaw say is ok to use the derby line for Any other race

[lone speed]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

I can't change how people read instructions
I can't change how people hear instructions
I can understand how people can ignore my post
But I can not understand how people would ignore Ted and FTL
FTL clearly points out on many occasions that
as per the Pace Line manual
The Last line is the line UNLESS THERE IE A VALID EXCUSE

I can't think of a more valid excuse than one of the very few RULES!!!

Please listen to this clip with Doc and Aline Best

Attachment 34332o


I am the idiot around here but I hear and read what Doc says
and follow those guidelines and in this case RULES.

I may have missed it but please if you can and care to invest the time. Please point me to some manual, folllow up article or audio clip where Doc or Jim Bradshaw say is ok to use the derby line for Any other race

Bill..

I do understand your loyalty and allegiance to Doc's teaching and methodology. You are one of many who follow his methodology to the T...and I mean a capital T.

That's fine and there are no problems with that strong stance...

But the attitude to drive one's core belief and strong convictions down one' s throat is questionable.
This is against all principles of learning and feedback. Did Doc stop at one program??? Sartin was always striving to improve the methodology and he even use chaos math and theory to advance his methodology...

If the tsunami is so strong against a small voice of different ideas or approach...then I can see where dissentions arises and where old posters decided to leave the board. It is your board Bill...I can see clearly where the strong currents are...

Take care...

[Ted Craven]

7-12-4

[Ted Craven]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

7-12-4

Result: 7-16-4

[alydar_ David]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

Result: 7-16-4

Right on top. Nice.

[Bill V.]

Nice one Ted

My I ask why the 16 is a non contender ? maybe a secondary ?
Good Total Energy and LP ratings on the turf

Bill