Old Fashioned out - Pace and Cap

Tim Y · 04-11-2009, 11:44 PM

Place colt in the Arkansas Derby has a fracture.Old Fashioned sustained a slab fracture to the right knee

JimG · 04-12-2009, 09:46 AM

Very sorry to hear about the injury to this nice horse. I did not think he really wanted to go the Derby distance anyhow.

Jim

reckless · 04-12-2009, 11:21 AM

Sorry to hear about the injury but not surprised as many horses pointing to the Triple Crown races often succumb to program. Simply, the road to Louisville asks much too much to many horses physically not able to sustain the grind.

When Old Fashion got beat in the Rebel, I had a 'feeling' there was more to his loss than the speed duel, albeit a 'hot' one for sure. Sometimes, horses's injuries often don't show immediately.

He would have been one of the 5-6 favorites for sure come Derby Day, and Larry Jones has proven to be a very capable horseman and 'personality' for our game.

Tim Y · 04-12-2009, 09:55 PM

Climbing % median (above 68.2 and climbing) would have negated his efforts at getting 10 furlongs anyway. Wanted him to be there so there would be "sucker money" backing him. Too bad

Vinnie · 04-12-2009, 10:29 PM

I feel awful for the horse and his connections. I do hope that he will be okay eventually moving forward. I must agree with Jim and Tim on their posts. Even if he were sound he would have been a throwout for me in attempting to do it up or near the front as he has shown at 10 panels on Derby day. That just wasn't going to happen IMHO. But, you know there would be folks out there that would still be throwing a lot of green his way come Derby day. I simply wouldn't be amongst that group of bettors.

Good Skill,

Vinnie

04-11-2009, 11:44 PM	#1
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Old Fashioned out Place colt in the Arkansas Derby has a fracture.Old Fashioned sustained a slab fracture to the right knee __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

04-12-2009, 09:55 PM	#4
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Climbing % median (above 68.2 and climbing) would have negated his efforts at getting 10 furlongs anyway. Wanted him to be there so there would be "sucker money" backing him. Too bad __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

04-12-2009, 10:29 PM	#5
Vinnie Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 223	old Fashioned out.... I feel awful for the horse and his connections. I do hope that he will be okay eventually moving forward. I must agree with Jim and Tim on their posts. Even if he were sound he would have been a throwout for me in attempting to do it up or near the front as he has shown at 10 panels on Derby day. That just wasn't going to happen IMHO. But, you know there would be folks out there that would still be throwing a lot of green his way come Derby day. I simply wouldn't be amongst that group of bettors. Good Skill, Vinnie __________________ "All human error is impatience; a premature renunciation of method". F. Kafka

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04-12-2009, 09:46 AM	#2
JimG Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 992	Very sorry to hear about the injury to this nice horse. I did not think he really wanted to go the Derby distance anyhow. Jim

04-12-2009, 11:21 AM	#3
reckless Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: near Philadelphia Park Posts: 259	Sorry to hear about the injury but not surprised as many horses pointing to the Triple Crown races often succumb to program. Simply, the road to Louisville asks much too much to many horses physically not able to sustain the grind. When Old Fashion got beat in the Rebel, I had a 'feeling' there was more to his loss than the speed duel, albeit a 'hot' one for sure. Sometimes, horses's injuries often don't show immediately. He would have been one of the 5-6 favorites for sure come Derby Day, and Larry Jones has proven to be a very capable horseman and 'personality' for our game.