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Old 12-10-2007, 03:35 AM   #1
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Smile Training Angle And Pace Lines 7th@haw

6 HORSE had won 3 at this distance. last two were 6f and with cheap claimers, trainers love to give them 2 6f preps in last 30 days and todays race would be 3rd in 30. this a 4K claimer. He went wire to wire .

Paid $14.60 and completed a nice EX and Tri

This angle came from talks witht rainers and the legendary Ray Talbout

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Old 12-10-2007, 03:43 AM   #2
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With the ceap claimers I love 2 races in 10 days and todays the 3rd in 30.

these guys eat a lot and the activity shows a non cripple. check it out

for your own satisfaction. made my day.

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Old 12-10-2007, 04:15 AM   #3
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And one more thing that gave this angle more support.

Trainer is Jamie Ness currently ranked #1 at the Hawthorne meet.

Jockey is Tanner Riggs ranked 2nd

Horses EPS (earnings per start) ranked 4th
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:51 AM   #4
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Bob,
Per Taulbot, An angle only has real value if the horse ranks competitively in his "pace ratings"....ie. top 3 or 4 horses.
The #6 horse ranked in at #1!
Using his standards for condition, #6 also ranked #1!
NOTHING is a "lock", but....#6 was as close as it comes.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:00 AM   #5
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Training angles amd pace lines

Thank you Cecil, and also I used the 4th line back on the 3. got the 2 in there also, but did not play the Super, which the 2 completed and paid 1600+ for a buck. Let me know what Ray's calculator comes up with on these horses. Interesting it still is so accurate after all these years. And thanks for the correct spelling of this fine man's name.

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Old 12-10-2007, 03:03 PM   #6
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BobP:

When my handicapping is on and I am not just trying to squeeze out a bet while at the track, you know make something happen or pick something, I count on my performance/trainer angles to make me feel today is the day for this horse. This is especially so if you are going back more then 3-4 races for your preferred pace line. Ray Taulbot would go back as far as needed to get his representative pace line which was according to him the best finish/time against the fastest half mile time in the past performances. Ray was an expert at determining a horse’s recent form and therefore this method of pace line selection was good for him. In his booklet that came with his pace calculator (which I still have) he had at least 15 or more form/trainer angles which were to be applied to only the top five contenders.

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Old 12-10-2007, 06:40 PM   #7
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Hi Robert, glad to have your comments.Ray was great. and Larry Munster,

a jockey friend of mine who had the distinction of riding John Henry on his

1st start at the old Jefferson Downs (now a shopping mall) backed Ray up

on theses angles. By the way Larry fell off after chute opened. he is a Track

Steward now at the Fairgrounds.

It would be super if you could share some of those angles you may have

saved, because sometimes it is just as much fun just checking the form and

playing them.

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Old 12-12-2007, 09:49 AM   #8
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Guys,
How did Talbout qualify his contenders?

After he evaluated all the angles what criteria did he use to match them up and find and bet only the "fast ones"?
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:00 AM   #9
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:13 AM   #10
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LBJ, where might the guys find them??

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