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Old 02-12-2012, 01:17 AM   #1
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Could this pay off

All recent lines, could we get a price here? You decide...
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:34 AM   #2
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Another race, look at the seperation of #1 VDC and #2 VDC, it narrowed down 13 points when I went to 5 contenders
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:56 PM   #3
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Good morning Patrick,

in that second race, the 4 is scratched. In looking at this race, I would look at the 7 horse. The raw sprint times compare very well to the 6 furlong times of the routers. The TM SR doesn't seem to show it, but the raw times show a big edge.

Good luck in these races...
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:29 PM   #4
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Another race, look at the seperation of #1 VDC and #2 VDC, it narrowed down 13 points when I went to 5 contenders
Patrick,

I did not look at either of the races you posted. All I did is look at what you posted and here is what I observed.

2nd race
#3 - OFF 114 days, throw it out
#4 - if all you could find was a "turf" line, throw it out
#7 - if all you could find was a sprint line, throw it out
This leaves you with 6,1,2,5
The #2 went off @ 3/5. The race is a pass.

As I posted the other day, horses that go off at less than even money win a little more than 52%. Do you really want to be in a race against an odds on horse? Maybe there is a better race somewhere?

5th race
#10 - OFF 154 days, throw it out
This leaves the winner (#6) in your top 2

Horses OFF more than 90 days win a very, very small % of the time.
Are you looking to get struck by lightning, or
do you want to win more races?

Like I said, I didn't look at these two races, so I can't say that your contender selection or line selection was good or bad.

All I know from what I see here is, following a couple of easy steps, you should have passed the second and played the 5th and got a $13.80 winner.

What more do you want out of life?
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:57 AM   #5
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This race is part of the Pick 4 contest, that is why it is considered. As far as pacelines, they are very limited in this type of race, and we must take what is available to us.

How we interpret that info makes us the cappers we are to be, or we could just hit the all button, but then we would not be cappers anymore.

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Old 02-14-2012, 03:38 PM   #6
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This race is part of the Pick 4 contest, that is why it is considered. As far as pacelines, they are very limited in this type of race, and we must take what is available to us.

How we interpret that info makes us the cappers we are to be, or we could just hit the all button, but then we would not be cappers anymore.

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I just want to make sure I have this correct.

In your opening post, you said nothing about a pick 4 contest or any other type of contest.
In your opening post, you said nothing about limited pacelines and using what is available to you.
In your opening post, you said “All recent lines, could we get a price here? You decide...”
In your second post, you put up another race, with no particular question, but for all to look at and comment on.

On that basis, I made some intended “helpful hints”.

In the first race I reduced the number of horses (rather than hit the ALL button as you suggested)
I also answered your question. I “decided” there was no “price” to be had in this race.

In the second race you posted, my intended “helpful hints” produced a $13.80 winner from what could have been your “top 2”.

I did all of this by simply “capping” your work!
Now if you are doing that well that you don’t need any “helpful hints”, then I appologize for having intruded.

GOOD LUCK!
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:38 PM   #7
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Why does this always happen, I find the grumpy old guys who take what I say and get grumpier, now let me see if I can clarify this.

1st. My Plays for the contest

$20 Pick-4: 6 / 6 / 3,7 / 6,10
Bets: 4 Total: $80

$1 Pick-4: 1,2,7 / 1,5,6 / 1,3,7 / 1,3,4,10
Bets: 108 Total: $108


$12 3//6//7//10 TOTAL 12.00

the Winning numbers were

$2 Pick 4 2/4-6-4-6 (4 correct) 569.00






These 2 races are on Sunday, races 2,3,4 and 5 make up the early pick 4 at Aqueduct, thou I did not mention it , I took it for granted most would know this, mistake #1, as for Pacelines in the 2nd Race I took the best lines from all horse's, and some only had 1-2 lines to choose from, only the 1 horse had quiet a few lines and the 7 horse had 3 lines, but as mentioned I took the best lines of all horse's running, the 2 horse, who won the race , had only 1 prior race, thus 1 line to choose from, and this line did not make him a contender here, especially at , my 2nd mistake, at 1 am Sunday morning, when I had a few mintues to cap this race, (edit mistake #3 ), I trusted the program completely and left the 2 horse out because he was too lowly rated, in TE and VDC, yet was both M/L and Post time favorite who won easily, and my capping threw him out, mistake #4, not capping thoroughly, by looking at the connections I would have had to include this horse, Todd/Ramon and Bobby, never really a throw out, in a pick 4 contest, but a lousy win bet, as you duly stated.

Now Race 5
For me it is 180 days and I think to toss out, yet I again trusted the program and will keep doing so, because it is right more often than not, and has given nice orices for trusting it, so I will continue to do so, but yes if the 10 was hidden the 6 was the best horse had used, but missed this all together by not having what to me appered to be a pick 4 that had potential to have a FEW PRICES , THAT WERE TOP RDSS PICKS, and it did not work out, as Race 4 I did not have the 4 horse at all, the other horse's were so much higher ranked than him, I was wrong again.

Frustration for not hitting, no not really, A grumpy old guy, maybe, at times I feel so, yet smiling each day to everyone is getting easier, but the thoughts in the mind are still there, behind the smile.

Is there a moral here, don't get grumpy with the grumpy people, no that is not it, respond to grumpy old men with a little more tact, with a smile, not what you are thinking behind it, after all they, Well him FTL, was only offering you some good advice, and what makes it worse was his advice was right on top of it, Remember to Smile thru it, and be thankful.

patrick


Sorry FTL

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Old 02-14-2012, 08:54 PM   #8
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Well him FTL, was only offering you some good advice, and what makes it worse was his advice was right on top of it,

Sorry FTL
Nothing to be sorry about.

Like I said, "GOOD LUCK!"
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