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Old 10-25-2006, 09:06 PM   #1
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Can you quantify that a bit

Richie:

Sorry to be a pest. I was looking for a little quantification on the topic of 1 and 2 turn mile times. In this week's lesson the 1a's races were 2 turn races and application of any significant part of the 5 tick/8 tick adjustment would or could change the comparison of the fastest times and ultimately the projected winner because the 1a being an invader from outside the Bel/AQu/SAR circuit in this race.

I understand that we have not addressed track class or recent track records into the discussion either (and may not), so if this subject is too tangential for current consideration, so be it. I was just trying to integrate the old with the new.

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Old 10-26-2006, 12:20 AM   #2
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Richie:

Sorry to be a pest. I was looking for a little quantification on the topic of 1 and 2 turn mile times. In this week's lesson the 1a's races were 2 turn races and application of any significant part of the 5 tick/8 tick adjustment would or could change the comparison of the fastest times and ultimately the projected winner because the 1a being an invader from outside the Bel/AQu/SAR circuit in this race.

I understand that we have not addressed track class or recent track records into the discussion either (and may not), so if this subject is too tangential for current consideration, so be it. I was just trying to integrate the old with the new.

Thanks,
Hi Bill
Ok Jim told me to speak frankly and honestly what I do so here goes.

When I FIRST started 6 months ago learning the matchup Jim sent me a track to track adjustment chart.

I asked him if HE used it and he said " Rich I rely on my mind to recognize differences in track speeds. patterns repeat and then become firmly part of our mind when we work races going forward. NO I never look at anything written."

Bill I promised myself from day ONE that if this man was gonna teach me I HAD to do ONLY what he does ok?

So I deleted the chart without ever referencing it.

What I do is look at shippers and trust what comes into my mind. Sometimes I am wrong but with experience I am " making calls" on horses better and better. It is totally a FEEL thing Bill. I honestly do NOT quantify anything

One thing I DID "see" in this race when Jim had me work it was the 1a shows a Belmont 8f line in his pp's - when I matched that with the # 7 last line it was no contest i favor of the 7 horse. PLUS the running styles in BOTH races was the same - Early Presser so I felt doubly confident in the 7 and QUICKLY threw out the 1a.

THAT is one of the BIG advantages of matching " The Hat" way. We use the WHOLE past performances on the horses to help us compare and matchup. It did seem strange at FIRST but with practice it is so POWERFUL and natural NOW it's crazy.

Hope I am not coming across like some kind of expert or whatever cause thats not how it is. I DO know what Jim does and follow ONLY what he tells me to do. NOTHING extra is added.

He works EVERY race the SAME exact way Bill. From a 4.5f race at Charlestown to a 9f Turf race at Santa Anita.

From this comes REPEATING PATTERNS and that is what is starting to happen with me. Jim tells me part of intuition is recognizing patterns that REPEAT.

Hope this helps and sorry if I rambled on a bit

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Old 10-26-2006, 02:48 PM   #3
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Rich, you are giving GOOD answers. You are really giving us the "inner workings" of The MatchUp "Bradshaw" style. Now that I think about it, going over all your MatchUp post, together, they could be called ....hmmm......"The Tao of THE HAT"(the Way of the Hat). Great stuff.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:20 PM   #4
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Track to track ,etc.

Richie:

Great answer, was way clear and I get it. Lets go forward! I understand what you are saying.

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Old 10-27-2006, 11:28 AM   #6
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Best time to hcp

Hi Jim: How are you??

Since most of us are Rookies with the matchUP what do you advice. 1) Do the hcp before we go to the track. 2) Hcp each race as it goes by.

The reason that I am asking this is because I noticed that if I hcp a night before and the next day I go to the track. In some races, there will be scratchs and I have to re hcp the race again. In the last 3 times that I did this. The horse that I picked the night before WON the race but because of the scratches I went on another horse.

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