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[pktruckdriver]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

Thanks Patrick
Its you guys who should get the thanks for you honest open thoughts
to my questions .

Now about horse 4 No I would not use this horse
Yes the last line is a 77 SR and it did close 8 BL
but Is this line indicitive of the horses ability No
Did you use this pace line, No

I have reposted the pps with the adjusted lines and the original lines
Something Doc writes about to do when looking at sprint and route lines.
Lets look at that 8 gain , The horse was beaten 16 in the stretch
it closed to 8, This is good ? or because the horse just loped around
in the route distance.

Lets look at the usual adjusted position and BL for this horse
in all its sprint races. See how far back it is at all it stretch calls
what makes today any different?

I see a poor apv and CR horse with only 1 plus race win long ago
I see no reason to use this horse
Just my opinion
Attachment 30944

I am wondering whaat you mean by adjusted PPs, and as for the 4 horse I took a chance that maybe, AND IT WAS A BIG MAYBE, that it would wake up and run today, as we saw it did not, but it does seem clear that this months 20 race cycle and my attempt for finding value has been very poorly done, yet knowing the winners in these races were easy enough, but they did not pay enough to wager on, at 50 to win, maybe 100 to win, which makes me wonder...

[Bill V.]

Hi Patrick

You wrote this about the 4 horse from race 1 today at Suff.

Hey Bill, no I do not, but the segement screen clearly puts the 4 horse on top, and wiith the 8 length close in the last race and 77 SR, make it a play for me, you??

My screen shot shows the original lines in the upper block and the adjusted
PP's in the lower block

I am showing how that 77 speed rating and gain of 8 in the route race
may be a case of an over adjustment
and nt a true measure of this horses ability

The readouts for BLBL and the segments screen on RDSS are calculated from
the adjusted pacelines So even if you pick you lines from the original data
it is vital to look how the nubers are being adjusted this is a big point
some people here seem to miss when they mix distances for their pacelines

Gs
Bill

[pktruckdriver]

Originally Posted by Bill V.

Hi Patrick

You wrote this about the 4 horse from race 1 today at Suff.



My screen shot shows the original lines in the upper block and the adjusted
PP's in the lower block

I am showing how that 77 speed rating and gain of 8 in the route race
may be a case of an over adjustment
and nt a true measure of this horses ability

The readouts for BLBL and the segments screen on RDSS are calculated from
the adjusted pacelines So even if you pick you lines from the original data
it is vital to look how the nubers are being adjusted this is a big point
some people here seem to miss when they mix distances for their pacelines
Attachment 30957
Gs
Bill

I am totally understanding, and this is an eye opener, great explanation, I must admit this was a screen I overlooked , yes I looked at it once in awhile, but never like you explained here, thanks.

PS: You think the numbers skewered if my setting are at 50% INSTEAD OF 100% OR LIKE OTHERS SET AT 15% in configure?

[Bill V.]

Patrick, you wrote

PS: You think the numbers skewered if my setting are at 50% INSTEAD OF 100% OR LIKE OTHERS SET AT 15% in configure?

I am the wrong person to ask about that. I never touch or alter any setting

Bill

[Ted Craven]

Originally Posted by pktruckdriver

I am totally understanding, and this is an eye opener, great explanation, I must admit this was a screen I overlooked , yes I looked at it once in awhile, but never like you explained here, thanks.

PS: You think the numbers skewered if my setting are at 50% INSTEAD OF 100% OR LIKE OTHERS SET AT 15% in configure?

Patrick,

Choose the suggested Default Adjustment settings and leave them there. This way, you compare apples to apples over the long term. I do choose to limit the amount of DTV used in my adjustments to -15 DTV points up to +15 DTV points: this smooths out over-slowing or over speeding-up pacelines due to very FAST or very SLOW daily variants. You individual race mileage may vary, but over the long haul it will give you consistent results.

Ted

Ted

[pktruckdriver]

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

Patrick,

Choose the suggested Default Adjustment settings and leave them there. This way, you compare apples to apples over the long term. I do choose to limit the amount of DTV used in my adjustments to -15 DTV points up to +15 DTV points: this smooths out over-slowing or over speeding-up pacelines due to very FAST or very SLOW daily variants. You individual race mileage may vary, but over the long haul it will give you consistent results.

Ted

Ted

Thanks Ted, that iss what I went back to, as I tried out the 15% thing for awhile and it was not to my liking, and right now during the wonderful streak, one could say default is not working either, lol.

Now this is for a person I know uses this and maaybe he could help us learn fron this Yellow Manual page 14 , I think the Red and Blue lines now dod this just as well, or am I kinda of the mark with that thinking, it shows moves being made, but not if it was an actual Plus Within A Circle Move, I guess looking fuurther into when and how the move was made will let us know that, but now having the color moves available, it'll be easier to spot a move being made anytime during a race, including passing tierd horse in the rear of the pack, like I have done a feww time sthis cycle.

[dlivery]

Just to get things going keeps me focused on using this + or Plus within a zero is good way to get started on evaluating how the horse ran in it's previous races it sure paint's a picture if you can enter the horse,s line into r d s s.

I know from switching over from form to computer form past performances I still use the old (+) 0's in evaluating the horses PP's

[pktruckdriver]

PASS CANCEL odds too low and not positive50.00 win 1/1a and 8

I am trying to beat the 5 horse here, and maybe should be passing here, as I must also beat the other horses too, lol, but 6-1 and 9/2 are nice odds for now, they may change in 15 minutes or so. And with Jesse riding the 5 I am worried a bit too, and I should be.



Yes this is an official cancel

[pktruckdriver]

50 win 1 and 2

[pktruckdriver]

My 1st Bluestar race 12.80 winner 25 x 12.80 = 320.00

Thanks Dlivery