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Bob Cochran · 02-07-2007, 02:33 PM

Shoeless, your list looks good, except i would be careful of eliminating
horses who won and are dropping in class.

To me, it would depend on the track and the class level of the race . Trainers play tricks with drops in price and class levels.

A thought

Bob Cochran · 02-07-2007, 02:36 PM

GL, this is the biggest reason i restrict my serious play to "fresh" and "lay off" horses. This quantifies the WHY for me.

gl45 · 02-07-2007, 03:03 PM

"Trainers play tricks with drops in price and class levels."
Well said. Your statement mirror the WHY question.
Pino

shoeless · 02-07-2007, 04:43 PM

Bob,If I see a horse win a 20,000 claimer and then his next race is in a 15,000 to me this is a negative drop in class.I think more often then not these horses will lose at a short price.Jeff

Bob Cochran · 02-07-2007, 08:50 PM

Jeff
the horse might not be a legitimate 20,000 claimer and the trainer knows this , so he drops him in a certain race hoping to "sell" him and at the same time pick up the winner's share, or any part of the purse. you think?

shoeless · 02-08-2007, 12:20 AM

Bob,Could be but over the years I have seen too many of these types of horses lose.Jeff

Bob Cochran · 02-08-2007, 03:49 AM

If your records indicate the negative class dropper as a legitmate elimination,
by all means, eliminate. Be careful in races for nw 2 lifetime.

02-07-2007, 02:33 PM	#1
Bob Cochran Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 330	eliminations list Shoeless, your list looks good, except i would be careful of eliminating horses who won and are dropping in class. To me, it would depend on the track and the class level of the race . Trainers play tricks with drops in price and class levels. A thought

02-07-2007, 02:36 PM	#2
Bob Cochran Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 330	What and Why GL, this is the biggest reason i restrict my serious play to "fresh" and "lay off" horses. This quantifies the WHY for me. Last edited by Bob Cochran; 02-07-2007 at 02:38 PM. Reason: clarity

02-07-2007, 08:50 PM	#5
Bob Cochran Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 330	winners dropping in class Jeff the horse might not be a legitimate 20,000 claimer and the trainer knows this , so he drops him in a certain race hoping to "sell" him and at the same time pick up the winner's share, or any part of the purse. you think?

02-08-2007, 03:49 AM	#7
Bob Cochran Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 330	class droppers If your records indicate the negative class dropper as a legitmate elimination, by all means, eliminate. Be careful in races for nw 2 lifetime.

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02-07-2007, 03:03 PM	#3
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	"Trainers play tricks with drops in price and class levels." Well said. Your statement mirror the WHY question. Pino

02-07-2007, 04:43 PM	#4
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,661	Bob,If I see a horse win a 20,000 claimer and then his next race is in a 15,000 to me this is a negative drop in class.I think more often then not these horses will lose at a short price.Jeff

02-08-2007, 12:20 AM	#6
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,661	Bob,Could be but over the years I have seen too many of these types of horses lose.Jeff

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