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Old 06-20-2010, 01:28 PM   #1
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Another example

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Originally Posted by SilentRun View Post
For this race there was an overlay in the place and show pools.
This is based on a small amount bet to place and show for specific horses
vs the total amount bet in those pools (For all horses) This concept is clearly explained in
"Money Secrets at the Racetrack" by Barry Meadow.

There was a huge ratio in the show pools for the 4 and 7 horses. Specifically
about 30:1 to 40:1. I.E Total Show Pool / Show pool for (4 & 7) = 30:1 to 40:1.
I did not have enough time to take a screen shot of the show pool but I
had the 4 and 7 to show. (Result Chart below)
Didn't bet to win though. (The 4 won at a nice price).
Both these horses were in my top 5 RDSS contenders.

For me the horse has to be in my top 5 to consider this
type of wager. This is definitly an uncommon event as
I usually track the show pools for these overlays and I think a 10:1 ratio is very good.

I find that this is a good strategy to mitigate your losses on
your win bets. I recall that the good doctor mentioned this strategy in one
of the "Follow Ups" but I cannot cite the issue #.

Thought this would be interesting to post.

Ernie
You might like to take a look at the 2nd race at PHA on 6.20.10.

The #2 horse went off at 1/2 after being "off" for more than 9 months and dropping way down in class.

I did catch a glance at the win, place and show money and it showed that there was almost $8,000 bet to win on the #2, a little more than $2,000 bet to place on the #2 and almost $8,000 bet to show on the #2 (almost as much as to win). The #2 ran OUT OF THE MONEY. The result was HUGE show payoffs on the horses that ran 1,2,3.

The winner that paid $9.00 to win, paid $17.00 to show.
The place horse paid $20.60 for show
The show horse paid $45.60 for show

These kinds of payoffs for show can ONLY happen when there is an inordinate amount of money bet on one horse for show. If the #2 had run in the money the show payoffs would have been the minimum $2.10 all around.
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:03 PM   #2
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[QUOTE=For The Lead;You might like to take a look at the 2nd race at PHA on 6.20.10.

The #2 horse went off at 1/2 after being "off" for more than 9 months and dropping way down in class.

I did catch a glance at the win, place and show money and it showed that there was almost $8,000 bet to win on the #2, a little more than $2,000 bet to place on the #2 and almost $8,000 bet to show on the #2 (almost as much as to win). The #2 ran OUT OF THE MONEY. The result was HUGE show payoffs on the horses that ran 1,2,3.

The winner that paid $9.00 to win, paid $17.00 to show.
The place horse paid $20.60 for show
The show horse paid $45.60 for show

These kinds of payoffs for show can ONLY happen when there is an inordinate amount of money bet on one horse for show. If the #2 had run in the money the show payoffs would have been the minimum $2.10 all around.[/QUOTE]

Good example RACE...Thanks,

Ernie
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