"The Hat's" Power Lines - Page 8 - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 08-16-2007, 07:01 PM

Here is a race from today where the Power Move is the icing on the cake. Woodbine Race 7

Spot Play - 3 matching earlies

Winner # 1 is Fastest pace of race and Power Moves QUICKLY. Has 3 lengths 1c and 4-6 lengths 2c to work with over the earlies. Fugghedaboutit.

Winner pays $5.60 so no big bragging rights. Just a super solid SPOT PLAY that had EVERYTHING.

RichieP · 08-16-2007, 07:04 PM

Here is the Woodbine PDF in case you want to view the whole races pp's. The card is finished

Richie

emilio840 · 08-16-2007, 09:08 PM

Hi Richie. I did have #1 as the winner but how do you figure that he is the pace of the race. I thought that you had to look at the LAST LINE to get the horse that ran in the fastest pace.

I thought #5 had the fastest pace of the last race. 22.1 45.1 111.2

#1 was in a brazing race in his 2nd line and also had a good power line. Thats the reason why I playled it.

emilio

RichieP · 08-17-2007, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emilio840

Hi Richie. I did have #1 as the winner but how do you figure that he is the pace of the race. I thought that you had to look at the LAST LINE to get the horse that ran in the fastest pace.

I thought #5 had the fastest pace of the last race. 22.1 45.1 111.2

#1 was in a brazing race in his 2nd line and also had a good power line. Thats the reason why I playled it.

emilio

Emilio,
I meant the winner was the fastest pace of race among the contenders. I liked him for all the reasons you posted!

Bill Lyster · 08-17-2007, 02:43 PM

Jim:

Thanks for the clarification. I will re-study the race with your comments in mind. Really enjoy your posts.

Bill

winbets · 08-16-2007, 11:34 PM

In the old days of the Methodology there was a teacher who also was a teacher of Silva Mind Control. I took a modified version of the course while at a Sartin Seminar at Saratoga. I can highly recommend a Silva Mind Control course to everyone. You will not believe the state of relaxation you can achieve. Cheers

Bill Lyster · 08-17-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winbets

In the old days of the Methodology there was a teacher who also was a teacher of Silva Mind Control. I took a modified version of the course while at a Sartin Seminar at Saratoga. I can highly recommend a Silva Mind Control course to everyone. You will not believe the state of relaxation you can achieve. Cheers

Yes, I remember and wholeheartedly agree. The reverend Bert Mayne, I believe. He also gave the course in Glendale, CA over two weekends in late 80's I think. It was very interesting. I still employ some of the concepts that he made available to us.

THE HAT · 08-20-2007, 05:02 PM

Saratoga Race Six

This race gave most of you trouble, so after I get my two horse I am going to analyze the race a little different to teach the way to make the final decision.

The Seven Eleven and Thirteen scratched. There are tandems that will help in the elimination of horses. The Two, ran in tandems and is slow, out. The One Three and Six are slow, out. The Eight was beaten by the Four, out. The Nine and Ten are from the same tandem and are slow, out. The Three and Twelve are Early, but are slower than the Four, out. This leaves the Four and Five as the main contenders. Now, how is the race going to run, Early, "or other than early?"

There are three horse that can run early in the race, the Tree, Four and Twelve. The three early horses are slower than the four, but will they have any effect on the Four? The Four needs at least a five length lead, on the turf, in order to go wire-to-wire. The Three and the Twelve can not win the race, but can prevent the Four for getting the lead he needs to win. Look at the third running line on the Four. Looking at the third running lines show what happens if the four horse does not get a comfortable lead. He can be caught.

The horse most likely to catch him is the Five. Look at positions and beaten lengths .The Five will be coming like a jet. This race will run "other than early" and the Five will win the race.

VoodooFan · 08-21-2007, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE HAT

Saratoga Race Six
The Four needs at least a five length lead, on the turf, in order to go wire-to-wire. Look at the third running line on the Four. Looking at the third running lines show what happens if the four horse does not get a comfortable lead. He can be caught.

Is that a MIS-Print? Are you also evaluating a horse's comfort lead at every call, including the stretch?

Because only in the stretch, in that 3rd line does he have a 6 length lead before winning. VoodooFan

RichieP · 08-21-2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoodooFan

Is that a MIS-Print? Are you also evaluating a horse's comfort lead at every call, including the stretch?

Because only in the stretch, in that 3rd line does he have a 6 length lead before winning. VoodooFan

There is confusion for a good reason Voodoo. Jim works from the Racing Form which shows the 4 horse from line 2 with a 5 length lead at the first FRACTION.

Ok the screenshot I put up with Rdss does NOT show the first fraction positions/beaten lengths. It starts at the first CALL. So we can NOT see what he saw there ok?

THIS is the reason for the mixup and is my bad. So this is how we will avoid mixups in the future.

When Jim is teaching/posting about a certain race or races I will post the regular PDF past performances showing exactly the same thing he sees when reading his Racing Form.

Once again I am sorry for the mixup.

Richie

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08-16-2007, 07:01 PM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Power Move + Fastest Pace + 3 Matching Earlies Here is a race from today where the Power Move is the icing on the cake. Woodbine Race 7 Spot Play - 3 matching earlies Winner # 1 is Fastest pace of race and Power Moves QUICKLY. Has 3 lengths 1c and 4-6 lengths 2c to work with over the earlies. Fugghedaboutit. Winner pays $5.60 so no big bragging rights. Just a super solid SPOT PLAY that had EVERYTHING. Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

08-16-2007, 09:08 PM	#3
emilio840 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I live in Toronto, Ontario, can Posts: 220	Hi Richie. I did have #1 as the winner but how do you figure that he is the pace of the race. I thought that you had to look at the LAST LINE to get the horse that ran in the fastest pace. I thought #5 had the fastest pace of the last race. 22.1 45.1 111.2 #1 was in a brazing race in his 2nd line and also had a good power line. Thats the reason why I playled it. emilio

08-17-2007, 02:43 PM	#5
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,509	Jim: Thanks for the clarification. I will re-study the race with your comments in mind. Really enjoy your posts. Bill

08-16-2007, 11:34 PM	#6
winbets AlwNW1X Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6	In the old days of the Methodology there was a teacher who also was a teacher of Silva Mind Control. I took a modified version of the course while at a Sartin Seminar at Saratoga. I can highly recommend a Silva Mind Control course to everyone. You will not believe the state of relaxation you can achieve. Cheers

08-20-2007, 05:02 PM	#8
THE HAT Grade 2 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Saratoga Race Six This race gave most of you trouble, so after I get my two horse I am going to analyze the race a little different to teach the way to make the final decision. The Seven Eleven and Thirteen scratched. There are tandems that will help in the elimination of horses. The Two, ran in tandems and is slow, out. The One Three and Six are slow, out. The Eight was beaten by the Four, out. The Nine and Ten are from the same tandem and are slow, out. The Three and Twelve are Early, but are slower than the Four, out. This leaves the Four and Five as the main contenders. Now, how is the race going to run, Early, "or other than early?" There are three horse that can run early in the race, the Tree, Four and Twelve. The three early horses are slower than the four, but will they have any effect on the Four? The Four needs at least a five length lead, on the turf, in order to go wire-to-wire. The Three and the Twelve can not win the race, but can prevent the Four for getting the lead he needs to win. Look at the third running line on the Four. Looking at the third running lines show what happens if the four horse does not get a comfortable lead. He can be caught. The horse most likely to catch him is the Five. Look at positions and beaten lengths .The Five will be coming like a jet. This race will run "other than early" and the Five will win the race.