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Old 09-17-2011, 02:52 PM   #11
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Mth #9

The 2 and the 5 are definitely the E types. I don't need much to convince me to play the S types in a 9F turf race. That makes the contenders the 6 and 8. Here's the way I have it in the RDSS BL:

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This puts me on the 8 as the highest rated S type.

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Old 09-17-2011, 05:41 PM   #12
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good hit on hitting on the 8....

Cap...this is match-up but showing RDSS was fine...

can anyone see why the 8 was the choice over the 6 even though
the 6 had better pace lines ?

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Old 09-17-2011, 06:31 PM   #13
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Excellent work by everyone as the #8 wins running OTE past the dueling "E" types and then the #6 late

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Old 09-18-2011, 12:25 PM   #14
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MTH #9 6 vs. 8

Mike posed an interesting question regarding the 6 vs. the 8 horse in the 9F race at MTH yesterday. I thought I'd take a stab at it.

Here are all the running lines for the 6 and the 8:

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The 6:

I initially classified this horse as an S type. Let's take a look. He was second at the 1st call 5 times; three of those times within a length. At the second call, he was 1st twice, 2nd once, and 3rd once. In the last turf race, he was 2 lengths off a 1:11.1 and three races back he was in the lead at 1:11.2. After writing this, I'd make him a P type horse.

The 8:

Using the same criteria, he was 2nd or 3rd at the first call 4 times; all but one of those against a slow pace. At the second call, he was second twice. His last five races show an S type horse at the 1st and 2nd call.

Looking at the running line of the race, the 6 ran 3rd a head at each of the first three calls reverting to his P tendencies. I think he ran second because the 8 was the only S type in the race that could overtake him.

Now, if I could do this before the race!

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Old 09-18-2011, 01:35 PM   #15
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posted in wrong race forum. See Sunday Woodbine turf race

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