Sprint to Route winners - Page 2 - Pace and Cap

PeteC · 09-22-2017, 07:17 PM

Hi Bill!

There was one today in SoCal, which you may have seen. #6 Tribal Roar in the 3rd. #2 Vibe was scratched by the way.

Pete

Bill Lyster · 10-26-2017, 01:18 PM

Thanks to all who posted here. I just can't find enough horses to draw any conclusions from. Also I started reading FTL's posts who does not use sprints in routes and concluded I was going no where, very slowly.

Thanks again for your inputs.

Bill

Lt1 · 10-26-2017, 05:42 PM

Hi Bill. I've found over the years that very few sprinters are able to win routes. Usually that expend their energy to fast for the track and dist. I look at the lifetime box to see if a horse has routed successfully in the past and then I check its' %med. Usually if the horse is at the top end or exceeds the range for the track and dist. they don't win. I will also check the trainers record to see how they do with the move. It usually works the same with routers going in a sprint. Very few horses can do both.
Tim

So Cal Al · 10-31-2017, 01:50 PM

Bill V. and/or Bill L.
I am finding that using a LRC pace line for SA and DMR races just isn't working (even if the best of the last 3,etc.). What has been your experience?

Bill Lyster · 10-31-2017, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by So Cal Al

Bill V. and/or Bill L.
I am finding that using a LRC pace line for SA and DMR races just isn't working (even if the best of the last 3,etc.). What has been your experience?

Most of my winners have had SA or DMR lines but about half my losing contenders were LRC lines in those races, so no problems here. I did have a couple of LRC line winners, but they were the best lines of my contenders, so I was not surprised to see them win.

For me, I cannot see any bias Al.

Sorry to report that, but those are my results.

Bill

So Cal Al · 10-31-2017, 06:45 PM

Thank, Bill
Just looking for accuracy, not confirmation...lol

09-22-2017, 07:17 PM	#11
PeteC Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 611	LRC 9/22 Race#3 Hi Bill! There was one today in SoCal, which you may have seen. #6 Tribal Roar in the 3rd. #2 Vibe was scratched by the way. Pete

10-26-2017, 05:42 PM	#13
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,451	Hi Bill. I've found over the years that very few sprinters are able to win routes. Usually that expend their energy to fast for the track and dist. I look at the lifetime box to see if a horse has routed successfully in the past and then I check its' %med. Usually if the horse is at the top end or exceeds the range for the track and dist. they don't win. I will also check the trainers record to see how they do with the move. It usually works the same with routers going in a sprint. Very few horses can do both. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

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10-26-2017, 01:18 PM	#12
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,494	Thanks to all who posted here. I just can't find enough horses to draw any conclusions from. Also I started reading FTL's posts who does not use sprints in routes and concluded I was going no where, very slowly. Thanks again for your inputs. Bill

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So Cal Al So Cal Al Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego/ La Quinta Posts: 214	Bill V. and/or Bill L. I am finding that using a LRC pace line for SA and DMR races just isn't working (even if the best of the last 3,etc.). What has been your experience?

10-31-2017, 06:45 PM	#16
So Cal Al So Cal Al Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego/ La Quinta Posts: 214	Thank, Bill Just looking for accuracy, not confirmation...lol