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Old 07-27-2006, 03:44 AM   #31
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:55 AM   #33
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apv SCR SR

Turf Apv CR SR
1. 97.7% 0.89 78 -74
2. 82.% 0.91 80
3. --
4. --
5. 100.4% 0.72 81
6. 70.7 % 1.11 82
8. 26.0% 0.53 78
9. 99.4% 1.00 80
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12. 52.1% 0.59 75
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:41 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Forego
Hi Binder,
when you get a chance could you explain the second and third columns and what you are using them for? I recognize and understand the apv column.
Mr Beckman

I discovered this screen when I was trying out the Energy program
At this same time I was reading the very first Follow Ups
I had never seen a Sartin Class rating so I started to try it out
The apv ranking as you said is what it is
The class rating ? I'm not sure ?
I think its a measure of the value of wins places and shows
based on the percentage of total earnings
The higher the number over 1.00 the better the horse has been doing
class wise a number under 100 means its class is under the entered purse value of this race ?

I am not sure at all really ! here is the catch I don't know what
these ratings mean but I do think they help me

When I was using the Energy program I did notice that entering numbers
(for me ) helped me get a better feeling for each horse
much more than just looking at the lines
But as well as I did with Energy the hand entry was just too
much and it was easy to make a mistake

Entering the numbers for the APV anc Class ratings is not hard
Actually for me its fun to do. It takes just a few minutes per race

Here is a screen shot of the Energy APV-Class rating screen
This is for horse # 1 in todays race
The purse is $64.000
Its a turf race so I use the turf earnings
Starts = 5
Wins = 0
Place = 2
Show = 0
Turf Earnings $25,155
Thats it. I have to just enter these 6 numbers
the program does the calculating
I notice class and apv better when I do this simple step
than looking at $5,031 - 4 Earnings Per Start
It helps me other ways too
In yesterdays race for horse #9. I entered this for horse 9
8 - 0 - 2 - 3
Its apv was 143% - which was second highest (the winner was the highest)
Its SCR was 1.34 also high but its speed rating was 73
which was the lowest in the race
While I was doing this step I saw that 0/8 and the low SR
so I just made a note that the 9 was a good horse just too slow
for these I noted she seemed to follow horses NFW = Not - For - Win

here is the screen for horse # 1 in todays race
Nothing works all the time
But The top 5 of the Class rating almost always
the winner is one of these
I hope i'm not wrong with this I would really like to learn more about these
numbers
Bill
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:54 AM   #35
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I ran out of time I have to leave for work
I will finish the race later as soon as I get home
Have a good day
GS
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:02 PM   #36
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:07 PM   #37
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I will hid the 12
no late energy poor ratings allaround
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:12 PM   #38
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:20 PM   #39
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Blbl

Ok here is the final BLBL
my view
I will take a little something on the 8 @20/1 Ml
My two win bets are the 2 and the 9
the 1 troubles me but its from that crazy 7.5 distance and the 3rd
fraction is all it has
I hope it works out
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:32 PM   #40
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Mr Beckman

I discovered this screen when I was trying out the Energy program
At this same time I was reading the very first Follow Ups
I had never seen a Sartin Class rating so I started to try it out
The apv ranking as you said is what it is
The class rating ? I'm not sure ?
I think its a measure of the value of wins places and shows
based on the percentage of total earnings
The higher the number over 1.00 the better the horse has been doing
class wise a number under 100 means its class is under the entered purse value of this race ?

I am not sure at all really ! here is the catch I don't know what
these ratings mean but I do think they help me

When I was using the Energy program I did notice that entering numbers
(for me ) helped me get a better feeling for each horse
much more than just looking at the lines
But as well as I did with Energy the hand entry was just too
much and it was easy to make a mistake

Entering the numbers for the APV anc Class ratings is not hard
Actually for me its fun to do. It takes just a few minutes per race

Here is a screen shot of the Energy APV-Class rating screen
This is for horse # 1 in todays race
The purse is $64.000
Its a turf race so I use the turf earnings
Starts = 5
Wins = 0
Place = 2
Show = 0
Turf Earnings $25,155
Thats it. I have to just enter these 6 numbers
the program does the calculating
I notice class and apv better when I do this simple step
than looking at $5,031 - 4 Earnings Per Start
It helps me other ways too
In yesterdays race for horse #9. I entered this for horse 9
8 - 0 - 2 - 3
Its apv was 143% - which was second highest (the winner was the highest)
Its SCR was 1.34 also high but its speed rating was 73
which was the lowest in the race
While I was doing this step I saw that 0/8 and the low SR
so I just made a note that the 9 was a good horse just too slow
for these I noted she seemed to follow horses NFW = Not - For - Win

here is the screen for horse # 1 in todays race
Nothing works all the time
But The top 5 of the Class rating almost always
the winner is one of these
I hope i'm not wrong with this I would really like to learn more about these
numbers
Bill
bill,
thank you for such a detailed explanation. the things i have learned here in a few months is helping me. i wish you much success.
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