current form and paceline selection - Pace and Cap

dugoutgold · 10-11-2006, 02:56 PM

Jim, Id like your thoughts relating current form/condion to the matchup. I know this is somewhat a broad question but I have always wonndered if you have ever asked if the horse can run to the paceline you have selected today.

Many thanks for your thoughts on this.

Best Doug

THE HAT · 10-12-2006, 07:55 AM

Doug

This is a very difficult question for me to answer, because I’m not sure of the meaning of form and condition . If a hors’s last couple of running line is horrible, I’m not sure is he is out of form, or
just a "ugly" horse.

I never second guess my self of running line I have selected. If the horse does not run to this line,
or I lose the race, then and only then, do I question the line I have selected. In reality I pick the
horse and not a running line.

Jim

sweetyjohn · 10-12-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE HAT

I never second guess my self of running line I have selected. If the horse does not run to this line,
or I lose the race, then and only then, do I question the line I have selected. In reality I pick the
horse and not a running line.

Jim

Bravo, the point of view I have maintained for years.

emilio840 · 10-12-2006, 12:10 PM

Hi Jim.

Jim, how do you compare horses that have just started running in the fall when the pace of the races is much slower, with horses that having been running in the Spring and Summer time when the pace of the race was much faster.

eg: horse A: runs in the summer and his best times are 22 45 111

horse B: starts running in the fall and his best times are 23 46.2 112.3

Is there any special way that you handle this situation.

emilio

dugoutgold · 10-12-2006, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE HAT

Doug

This is a very difficult question for me to answer, because I’m not sure of the meaning of form and condition . If a hors’s last couple of running line is horrible, I’m not sure is he is out of form, or
just a "ugly" horse.

I never second guess my self of running line I have selected. If the horse does not run to this line,
or I lose the race, then and only then, do I question the line I have selected. In reality I pick the
horse and not a running line.

Jim

Thanks Jim, yes I meant by ugly lines or out of form and if you do indeed consider that. also read Richies post and it has help me alot, caught in fact a 23 dollar winner at HAW yesterday .

Many thanks again, Doug

THE HAT · 10-12-2006, 03:06 PM

Emilo,

I use all of the lines in the horses past performance and never rely on
only one line.

The Hat

10-11-2006, 02:56 PM	#1
dugoutgold Grade 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	current form and paceline selection Jim, Id like your thoughts relating current form/condion to the matchup. I know this is somewhat a broad question but I have always wonndered if you have ever asked if the horse can run to the paceline you have selected today. Many thanks for your thoughts on this. Best Doug

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10-12-2006, 07:55 AM	#2
THE HAT Grade 2 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Doug This is a very difficult question for me to answer, because I’m not sure of the meaning of form and condition . If a hors’s last couple of running line is horrible, I’m not sure is he is out of form, or just a "ugly" horse. I never second guess my self of running line I have selected. If the horse does not run to this line, or I lose the race, then and only then, do I question the line I have selected. In reality I pick the horse and not a running line. Jim

10-12-2006, 12:10 PM	#4
emilio840 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I live in Toronto, Ontario, can Posts: 220	Hi Jim. Jim, how do you compare horses that have just started running in the fall when the pace of the races is much slower, with horses that having been running in the Spring and Summer time when the pace of the race was much faster. eg: horse A: runs in the summer and his best times are 22 45 111 horse B: starts running in the fall and his best times are 23 46.2 112.3 Is there any special way that you handle this situation. emilio

10-12-2006, 03:06 PM	#6
THE HAT Grade 2 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Emilo, I use all of the lines in the horses past performance and never rely on only one line. The Hat