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03-04-2017, 06:58 PM | #1 |
Happy Punting
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Lasix in PPs
Ted,
In the past performances of each horse; is there anyway that you could hi-lite the "Lasix" using horses? Irish War Cry was a first time Lasix last out, and as usual, got a great boost. Second Lasix is usually a regression. Happy Punting, Jon |
03-04-2017, 10:40 PM | #2 |
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Hi Jon. Don't know if you are asking for a special hi lite but lasix users are noted in the trip tab.
Tim G
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03-04-2017, 11:29 PM | #3 |
Happy Punting
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Thank you - I did not know that
You Learn something new each day!
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07-26-2017, 01:46 PM | #4 |
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additions to RDSS
Hello Ted
Thanks again for all the help! You once asked about suggestions to RDSS for the newer version 1, Any way to include trainer stats like DRF? I would like to know just small things such as to how trainers do with layoffs,TURF to dirt the stuff that gives us a percentage that's all I can think of for now 3. I would assume that the BEYER numbers are exclusive to drf? Thanks Ted Still working on Saratoga! papa john |
07-26-2017, 04:57 PM | #5 |
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Hi Papajohn, we don't actually get trainer or jockey stats from Trackmaster in the RDSS data files beyond the 30 day hit rates already shown. I asked one time if it was possible to get more and they said it could. But to create a new RDSS data file, possibly for more cost, they needed to know how much usage it would get (how much new sales). Including your interest here, I think I can count on ONE hand the number of requests over the years for this kind of data. So I was unable to make a very good case to TrackMaster for the new data, the last time we spoke about it.
Also - you're right about the Beyer numbers: DRF owns those, so Equibase/TrackMaster does not supply them. Hope to see you in Saratoga 2017! Ted
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07-27-2017, 10:13 AM | #6 |
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Both DRF and BRIS are "value added" resellers of the Equibase data. Equibase/TrackMaster does not provide trainer/jockey stats with its own PPs. Working on another project, I downloaded both Equibase and TrackMaster cards and compared them to the RDSS. (By the way, TrackMaster is a wholly owned subsidiary of Equibase and makes the speed ratings for both companies.)
DRF and BRIS maintain their own databases with additional (and proprietary) information such as T/J data and sire/pedigree ratings that each has derived from the basic Equibase data and other sources. TimeFormUS also provides T/J and pedigree ratings but I'm not sure of the source. (Its parent company is a European behemoth with substantial resources to do anything it wants. It would not surprise me if TimeForm eventually absorbs DRF.) Perhaps the easiest and cheapest way to obtain T/J and pedigree ratings is to open a betting account with Twinspires and download the BRIS PPs through their website. If you bet the track, there's no charge and there's no minimum on the bet size. From time to time, I'll download a card and make a $2 Show bet on a favorite. You can do the same thing with DRF Bets but there was a $25 bet minimum the last time I did that. |
07-27-2017, 10:27 AM | #7 |
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Daily Racing Form sold to Z Capital Partners
http://www.drf.com/news/daily-racing...pital-partners
Perhaps I should have read the morning news before I submitted my last post. |
08-06-2017, 07:01 PM | #8 |
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Correct Mick...I was going to tell him the same thing then I read your post. On Twin Spires I download Ultimate PP'S with comments and make a $2 show bet on one of the favs and get it free...been doing that for years.
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08-06-2017, 08:02 PM | #9 |
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I've been using the Bris ultimate pps for yrs. They are the perfect compliment to the Trackmaster pps. Gives you all the info you need to go along with RDSS.
Tim
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