7/31 - Pace and Cap

Tim Y · 07-31-2009, 11:47 AM

Saratoga sloppy off the turf
1) 2 3 7 9 12
3) 1a 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 11
4) 5 6 7
6) 5
7) 2
9) 5 6 12 13

Tim Y · 07-31-2009, 12:25 PM

Woodbine first

with

late

mikesal57 · 07-31-2009, 12:37 PM

Tim..

just a small bet for me on WO 1st..

the 1-5-6 come out of the same race...but the 5 & 6 tried numerous times and with blin on the 7..maybe we'll get that late horse

the 1 is only 2nd out and has my bet

Tim Y · 07-31-2009, 12:41 PM

Winning e/l's for OLDER horses are around -7 at nine furlongs. For maidens it is usually about 20-30% HIHGER

tfm · 07-31-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57

Tim..

just a small bet for me on WO 1st..

the 1-5-6 come out of the same race...but the 5 & 6 tried numerous times and with blin on the 7..maybe we'll get that late horse

the 1 is only 2nd out and has my bet

While he certainly can improve 2nd time out, problem I have with this horse, as the chart indicates, is that he ran AFTER all the others had. He couldn't bid with the winner (or the 9) early, and only passed quitters. Maybe it was a prep and the xtra distance will help. But, with only 7 going, I wouldn't count on much of a pace collapse. If there is one, the 3, Ziggy Stardust, is more likely -- he still owes me for that 26:1 nose beat.

Tim Y · 07-31-2009, 12:52 PM

Three is the classic "Bid, Hung" animal

tfm · 07-31-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Y

Three is the classic "Bid, Hung" animal

Not exactly. He's just not very good and needs the race to collapse in order to win. There's not a single race of his where he has actually 'bid'.

I'm going to put you back on ignore. So don't bother responding. Your lack of the basics is just laughable. You're just annoying.

Tim Y · 07-31-2009, 01:02 PM

is trying to steal it ,.............a new maneuver for that one

Three tried to HANG but got by

Tim Y · 07-31-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfm

Not exactly. He's just not very good and needs the race to collapse in order to win. There's not a single race of his where he has actually 'bid'.

I'm going to put you back on ignore. So don't bother responding. Your lack of the basics is just laughable. You're just annoying.

No my lack of accepting DOGMA is what differentiates my understanding for the others

the KEY to parimutuel success

also I never respond to the person just the idea presented

mikesal57 · 07-31-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfm

While he certainly can improve 2nd time out, problem I have with this horse, as the chart indicates, is that he ran AFTER all the others had. He couldn't bid with the winner (or the 9) early, and only passed quitters. Maybe it was a prep and the xtra distance will help. But, with only 7 going, I wouldn't count on much of a pace collapse. If there is one, the 3, Ziggy Stardust, is more likely -- he still owes me for that 26:1 nose beat.

you got em this time!!!

nice

now tell me...who says trainer and/or jockey has nothing to do with a horserace.....I'm sure the trainer told the #1 to go to the lead and try to steal it..and to see 47.2...112:4 fractions...he was cooked!!

07-31-2009, 12:25 PM	#2
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Woodbine first with late __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

07-31-2009, 12:37 PM	#3
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	Tim.. just a small bet for me on WO 1st.. the 1-5-6 come out of the same race...but the 5 & 6 tried numerous times and with blin on the 7..maybe we'll get that late horse the 1 is only 2nd out and has my bet __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

07-31-2009, 12:41 PM	#4
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Winning e/l's for OLDER horses are around -7 at nine furlongs. For maidens it is usually about 20-30% HIHGER Attached Images __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

07-31-2009, 12:52 PM	#6
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Three is the classic "Bid, Hung" animal Attached Images __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

07-31-2009, 01:02 PM	#8
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	is trying to steal it ,.............a new maneuver for that one Three tried to HANG but got by __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

07-31-2009, 11:47 AM	#1
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	7/31 Saratoga sloppy off the turf 1) 2 3 7 9 12 3) 1a 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 11 4) 5 6 7 6) 5 7) 2 9) 5 6 12 13 __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."