Turfway Park -- new surface - Pace and Cap

alydar_ David · 09-07-2005, 01:32 PM

Trainers are saying if a horse runs well on the turf he should relish the new polytrack surface and have an advantage.

RichieP · 09-07-2005, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alydar_David

Trainers are saying if a horse runs well on the turf he should relish the new polytrack surface and have an advantage.

David,
Am I understanding this poly thing right? There is NO dirt on the track??

Is this true?

If it is these people need their heads examined in my opinion are they serious??

You know what they should do is CLOSE about 20 racetracks that are losing money to tighten things up a bit It IS gonna happen but they should do it now man realize the writing is on the wall

So instead what are they doing? putting some artificial BS surface on a track that has been losing money hand over foot for more than a couple of years.

PLUS more tracks are being built whats next 4 horse fields

Richie

shoeless · 09-07-2005, 03:43 PM

Laurel has put in a new turf course as well it's supposed to be like the one at Colonial Downs.They say they will be able to run 6 turf races a day on it and that's the only way the track can survive without slots.When I see it I will believe it. Shoeless

alydar_ David · 09-07-2005, 06:26 PM

Richie,

Supposedly, the only track condition is "Fast."

"Polytrack is a combination of conventional and synthetic materials. Its unique formula is comprised of polypropylene fibers, recycled rubber and silica sand covered in a wax coating."

If you click this link it will take you to the Polytrack site.

http://www.polytrack.com/racingmenu.html

And here's a quote from the Turfway Park website.

â€œOther tracks are watching Turfway intently,â€ said Turfway Park president Robert Elliston, â€œand many are seriously interested in using this system. Turfway Park is on the cutting edge of racetrack technology.â€ Polytrack has been installed on a few training tracks in this country, but Turfway is the first facility in North America to use the system for racing.

RichieP · 09-07-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alydar_David

Richie,

Supposedly, the only track condition is "Fast."

"Polytrack is a combination of conventional and synthetic materials. Its unique formula is comprised of polypropylene fibers, recycled rubber and silica sand covered in a wax coating."

If you click this link it will take you to the Polytrack site.

http://www.polytrack.com/racingmenu.html

And here's a quote from the Turfway Park website.

â€œOther tracks are watching Turfway intently,â€ said Turfway Park president Robert Elliston, â€œand many are seriously interested in using this system. Turfway Park is on the cutting edge of racetrack technology.â€ Polytrack has been installed on a few training tracks in this country, but Turfway is the first facility in North America to use the system for racing.

Thanx David for the info. I am gonna check the link It sounds kinda like the "rubberized" track near Mark's house in Jersey that we would walk on.

But darn is this racing's future ??? no dirt?

Tahnx again matey
Richie

socantra · 09-08-2005, 10:02 PM

I think it must be a management thing. Something that administrators do when they have too much time on their hands, or maybe an attempt to justify their existemce.

I can't get real excited about it, but then, I got to watch the last noble experiment with Equitrack at Remington Park in the late 80's and early 90's. It was a brand new plant, complete with a brand new miracle surface that had been developed and used extensively on training tracks in England.

Well, it wasn't really bad, but it had its own problems just like all the artftctal surfaces that have been tried and largely abandoned in sports stadiums oer the last 40 years. There are unattended consequences, and the much touted goal of cheaper maintainence, which would allow them to lay off employees, doesn't ever seem to materialize. In fact, maintainence costs usually go up.

According to their FAQ, this new Polytrack surface degrades from manure, so I gues they have figured out a method of persuading the horses not to ****, or are going to follow them around the track with horsey pooper scoopers.

It will probably be there a few years, so as not to embarras any of the dumb bastards in management, then will quietly disappear.

Most likely, they will find like Remington Park, that good trainers are not going to risk their best horses on this unproven experimental surface and that it winds up costing them much more than plain old dirt, which this country still has an abundance of.

Dick...

RichieP · 09-09-2005, 06:13 AM

Guys,
I just read on Pace Advantage that Keeneland and Del Mar are gonna put this in next year. Can this really be happening? What planet are these people on man

OR am I just getting old and Father Time is starting to pass me by?

Old and Craggy
Rich

09-07-2005, 01:32 PM	#1
alydar_ David Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,654	Turfway Park -- new surface Trainers are saying if a horse runs well on the turf he should relish the new polytrack surface and have an advantage.

09-08-2005, 10:02 PM	#6
socantra Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 387	I think it must be a management thing. Something that administrators do when they have too much time on their hands, or maybe an attempt to justify their existemce. I can't get real excited about it, but then, I got to watch the last noble experiment with Equitrack at Remington Park in the late 80's and early 90's. It was a brand new plant, complete with a brand new miracle surface that had been developed and used extensively on training tracks in England. Well, it wasn't really bad, but it had its own problems just like all the artftctal surfaces that have been tried and largely abandoned in sports stadiums oer the last 40 years. There are unattended consequences, and the much touted goal of cheaper maintainence, which would allow them to lay off employees, doesn't ever seem to materialize. In fact, maintainence costs usually go up. According to their FAQ, this new Polytrack surface degrades from manure, so I gues they have figured out a method of persuading the horses not to ***, or are going to follow them around the track with horsey pooper scoopers. It will probably be there a few years, so as not to embarras any of the dumb bastards in management, then will quietly disappear. Most likely, they will find like Remington Park, that good trainers are not going to risk their best horses on this unproven experimental surface and that it winds up costing them much more than plain old dirt, which this country still has an abundance of. Dick... Last edited by socantra; 09-08-2005 at 10:05 PM.*

09-09-2005, 06:13 AM	#7
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	More to follow?? Guys, I just read on Pace Advantage that Keeneland and Del Mar are gonna put this in next year. Can this really be happening? What planet are these people on man OR am I just getting old and Father Time is starting to pass me by? Old and Craggy Rich

09-07-2005, 03:43 PM	#3
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Laurel has put in a new turf course as well it's supposed to be like the one at Colonial Downs.They say they will be able to run 6 turf races a day on it and that's the only way the track can survive without slots.When I see it I will believe it. Shoeless

09-07-2005, 06:26 PM	#4
alydar_ David Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,654	Richie, Supposedly, the only track condition is "Fast." "Polytrack is a combination of conventional and synthetic materials. Its unique formula is comprised of polypropylene fibers, recycled rubber and silica sand covered in a wax coating." If you click this link it will take you to the Polytrack site. http://www.polytrack.com/racingmenu.html And here's a quote from the Turfway Park website. â€œOther tracks are watching Turfway intently,â€ said Turfway Park president Robert Elliston, â€œand many are seriously interested in using this system. Turfway Park is on the cutting edge of racetrack technology.â€ Polytrack has been installed on a few training tracks in this country, but Turfway is the first facility in North America to use the system for racing.