Synergism without RDSS - Page 13 - Pace and Cap

Mr.Pagine · 11-29-2012, 08:58 PM

Much Appreciated Bill V.

It works.....

gl45 · 11-30-2012, 05:53 PM

MNR tonight contenders b4 scratches
#1....2-3-4-6-10
#3....1-4-5-6-7
#6....1-3-8-9-10
#9....1-4-8-9-10

use SYN 2 for winners selection

gl45 · 11-30-2012, 06:57 PM

#1.....2-3-6-7-10.....#4 scratch

CEW · 12-01-2012, 11:29 AM

Shoeless....

Greetings - we've passed notes here before, but not for quite a while. I was catching up on reading through these forums and saw your Synergism II comments, etc. I wrote in another thread this morning that I think Syn. II is the best. Purdy really had his head into that program. It reduces handicapping to pacelines and contenders. His average mutuel is/was one of the highest in the group.

I hit a $105 horse in one of the Maryland tournaments, as well as an $80 horse another time at that tournament with that program. I don't thinnk anything can touch it. And its basically the meridian that makes it so powerful.

I just won the Maryland Jockey Club tournament 3 weeks ago and will be in the World Series in Vegas (February). And the last race that put me over the top that day was on the grass at HOL and I nailed it with Syn II. It's a real money tournament, and I had the biggest win bet of my life on 2 horses. One controlled the front end, and the top 3rd fraction horse cruised home past the field and that was that!

Anyway, if anyone wants to discuss the ins and outs of Synergism, drop a line here!

Good luck to all!

Chuck Wilson

gl45 · 12-01-2012, 01:52 PM

Chuck,
can you share with us your finding about all the adjustment that SYN 2 makes with the meridian variant?
Thanks,
gl

shoeless · 12-01-2012, 04:09 PM

Chuck,

You live in Maryland if so your in my neck of the woods.

Congrats on the contests

Any tips you have please feel free to post

Jeff

gl45 · 12-01-2012, 06:55 PM

MNR tonight
#2.....1-3-4-5-10...contenders
1-5-4 my bets 1-4 to win

shoeless · 12-01-2012, 09:09 PM

Chuck,

Now that I think of it your name rings a bell and appreciate very much
your post.When I first started this thread I was hoping someone that
was really proficent with Syn2 would join in.

If you would ever care to post a race and show us how you go about
using Syn2 I think it would really benefit people interested that use it.
You really dont have to go into paceline selection unless you want to,
just how you use the readouts would be fine.

Jeff

shoeless · 12-01-2012, 09:09 PM

Pino,

Good Luck

CEW · 12-02-2012, 08:34 AM

Hi Guys..........

I can post a race if my teenager will show me how!

A few things from my perspective. What I use is a straight phase 3 with a meridian adjustment. This is explained way back in Issue 1 or 2 by Dick Schmidt. I don't adjust as much as he describes in that article - using track class and class. Once in a while. But the framework is the same.

My program has a glitch where it won't export a few tracks into it. HOL is one and Oaktree is another. I will get that fixed before the World Series! At the Maryland tournament, the tracks were AQU, WO, LRL, CD, and the first 5 at HOL. So I worked up AQU, CD, and WO. Before I left the house, I layed out a timeline and realized that the 5th at HOL was going to be the last race of the day. And I remember saying to myself 'you might need that race'. Since I couldn't get my machine to open HOL, I ran that race through Synergism II, printed it, and drove to LRL. Good thing because after the penultimate race,I had about 4 minutes to decide what play to make. My top 2 Ws were also top 2 in sustained, it was a grass route, and it worked out well.

When I was putting the program together, I had every line adjust to a 55.00 fps. So if any horse wired the field, he got a FW of 55.00, regardless of actual final time. This was for testing purposes so I could be sure it was functioning at every distance. I got used to seeing these numbers this way and never reverted back to actual fps. (I never used Ultra Scan, but I think its very close to this concept. The readouts seem to be similar.)

The biggest hurdle with a meridian adjust is that you cannot enter an uncompetitive line for a horse. He must be close at the half or final or both. So a horse that wins in 1:14 will come out better than a horse that was 2 or 3 back in 1:10. That takes some getting used to! All comes down to contenders and pacelines. I remember Jim Bradshaw at the Saratoga Seminar - he leans into the microphone and says slowly and loudly: "Contenders......Pacelines!".

Anyway, I'm running out of time this morning, but hopefully tonight I post what I believe to be the main components of Syn II. Here's my email, if I'm allowed to do that here(?) cewilso@erols.com. Maybe on an email, I'll lay out what I think the program does in specifics.

Regards !

Chuck

11-29-2012, 08:58 PM	#121
Mr.Pagine Happy Punting Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 481	Thanks Bill Much Appreciated Bill V. It works.....

12-01-2012, 11:29 AM	#124
CEW Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 120	Synergism II Shoeless.... Greetings - we've passed notes here before, but not for quite a while. I was catching up on reading through these forums and saw your Synergism II comments, etc. I wrote in another thread this morning that I think Syn. II is the best. Purdy really had his head into that program. It reduces handicapping to pacelines and contenders. His average mutuel is/was one of the highest in the group. I hit a $105 horse in one of the Maryland tournaments, as well as an $80 horse another time at that tournament with that program. I don't thinnk anything can touch it. And its basically the meridian that makes it so powerful. I just won the Maryland Jockey Club tournament 3 weeks ago and will be in the World Series in Vegas (February). And the last race that put me over the top that day was on the grass at HOL and I nailed it with Syn II. It's a real money tournament, and I had the biggest win bet of my life on 2 horses. One controlled the front end, and the top 3rd fraction horse cruised home past the field and that was that! Anyway, if anyone wants to discuss the ins and outs of Synergism, drop a line here! Good luck to all! Chuck Wilson

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gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	MNR tonight contenders b4 scratches #1....2-3-4-6-10 #3....1-4-5-6-7 #6....1-3-8-9-10 #9....1-4-8-9-10 use SYN 2 for winners selection

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gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	#1.....2-3-6-7-10.....#4 scratch

12-01-2012, 01:52 PM	#125
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	Chuck, can you share with us your finding about all the adjustment that SYN 2 makes with the meridian variant? Thanks, gl

12-01-2012, 04:09 PM	#126
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Chuck, You live in Maryland if so your in my neck of the woods. Congrats on the contests Any tips you have please feel free to post Jeff

12-01-2012, 06:55 PM	#127
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	MNR tonight #2.....1-3-4-5-10...contenders 1-5-4 my bets 1-4 to win

12-01-2012, 09:09 PM	#128
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Chuck, Now that I think of it your name rings a bell and appreciate very much your post.When I first started this thread I was hoping someone that was really proficent with Syn2 would join in. If you would ever care to post a race and show us how you go about using Syn2 I think it would really benefit people interested that use it. You really dont have to go into paceline selection unless you want to, just how you use the readouts would be fine. Jeff

12-01-2012, 09:09 PM	#129
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Pino, Good Luck

12-02-2012, 08:34 AM	#130
CEW Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 120	Hi Guys.......... I can post a race if my teenager will show me how! A few things from my perspective. What I use is a straight phase 3 with a meridian adjustment. This is explained way back in Issue 1 or 2 by Dick Schmidt. I don't adjust as much as he describes in that article - using track class and class. Once in a while. But the framework is the same. My program has a glitch where it won't export a few tracks into it. HOL is one and Oaktree is another. I will get that fixed before the World Series! At the Maryland tournament, the tracks were AQU, WO, LRL, CD, and the first 5 at HOL. So I worked up AQU, CD, and WO. Before I left the house, I layed out a timeline and realized that the 5th at HOL was going to be the last race of the day. And I remember saying to myself 'you might need that race'. Since I couldn't get my machine to open HOL, I ran that race through Synergism II, printed it, and drove to LRL. Good thing because after the penultimate race,I had about 4 minutes to decide what play to make. My top 2 Ws were also top 2 in sustained, it was a grass route, and it worked out well. When I was putting the program together, I had every line adjust to a 55.00 fps. So if any horse wired the field, he got a FW of 55.00, regardless of actual final time. This was for testing purposes so I could be sure it was functioning at every distance. I got used to seeing these numbers this way and never reverted back to actual fps. (I never used Ultra Scan, but I think its very close to this concept. The readouts seem to be similar.) The biggest hurdle with a meridian adjust is that you cannot enter an uncompetitive line for a horse. He must be close at the half or final or both. So a horse that wins in 1:14 will come out better than a horse that was 2 or 3 back in 1:10. That takes some getting used to! All comes down to contenders and pacelines. I remember Jim Bradshaw at the Saratoga Seminar - he leans into the microphone and says slowly and loudly: "Contenders......Pacelines!". Anyway, I'm running out of time this morning, but hopefully tonight I post what I believe to be the main components of Syn II. Here's my email, if I'm allowed to do that here(?) cewilso@erols.com. Maybe on an email, I'll lay out what I think the program does in specifics. Regards ! Chuck