10\27 Picks - Pace and Cap

albatross · 10-27-2008, 09:42 AM

Meadowland
R2 #4 win
R5 #2 win
R6 #4 win
R7 #2 win
Delware R4 #5 win

Rverge · 10-27-2008, 12:17 PM

Hi guys! how are all? any thoughts about BC day? i did not do very good. didn't hit 1 win bet. 2 2nds w/ no place bets. bet the 9 to show instead of win and got 21$ in the turf sprint. 2 small ex(as savor's) and that was it. even my "box" did't have a light. its dark at Wheeling downs.
oh well back to Pha and suf
#1 glittery star look like the winner @ pha 1

Rverge · 10-27-2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rverge

Hi guys! how are all? any thoughts about BC day? i did not do very good. didn't hit 1 win bet. 2 2nds w/ no place bets. bet the 9 to show instead of win and got 21$ in the turf sprint. 2 small ex(as savor's) and that was it. even my "box" did't have a light. its dark at Wheeling downs.
oh well back to Pha and suf
#1 glittery star look like the winner @ pha 1

didn't consider the 6 @ pha
#3-7 @ suf

Rverge · 10-27-2008, 12:52 PM

1-3 pha

albatross · 10-27-2008, 01:03 PM

Don't think that was bad they were running for ya.Besides a lot of race were euro winner.Had two winners for the day one paid $14.00 other $8.00 and looking back i think should have had $75.00 winner in race #2 But the euro i know nothing about but with new surface may have to and definately for B.C day and tripple crown races.

Rverge · 10-27-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albatross

Don't think that was bad they were running for ya.Besides a lot of race were euro winner.Had two winners for the day one paid $14.00 other $8.00 and looking back i think should have had $75.00 winner in race #2 But the euro i know nothing about but with new surface may have to and definately for B.C day and tripple crown races.

thats the race i bet the 9 to show and it won and paid that 75.00 was looking at other contenders but didn't want to be 4 horses to win. but couln't resist the show. your right the euros beat me.

Tim Y · 10-27-2008, 01:42 PM

4 could be all alone in the 4th at Philly with the 1, 3, 7 chasing

Rverge · 10-27-2008, 01:43 PM

1-5 @ pha

Rverge · 10-27-2008, 01:54 PM

too many FTS 2 yo in next @ pha but i'll say 1-7

Tim Y · 10-27-2008, 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=Rverge;42317]Hi guys! how are all? any thoughts about BC day? /QUOTE]
Like I said elsewhere, the short-sightedness of NA breeders has now come back to haunt them in having NO stamina in the breed. The Europeans provide a graded stakes platform in order to find those sires that produce stamina and the idiots here keep SHORTENING them... Brilliant!!!

The last stamina dominant chef de race was Run the Gauntlet and that was 30 years ago.

Breed speed to speed and then temper it with loose medication rules and you have bleeders breediing bleeders, NO BONE to increase those nasty breakdowns and NO lung capacity.

here is that note I wrote about it:I believe the events of this year's WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS are the
beginning of a need to "wake up" the North American breeding industry
to the fact that STAMINA is disappering from their offspring.

Myself, and my good friend Erwin (leftcoastracing.com, a Hasting's
website devoted to an aspect called his "stayers watch" for stamina
horses and his lamenting, like I do, that it is disappaering) have
harped on it for years: breed speed to speed and eventually we are
going to have 4 furlong horses. It is this aspect of racing that I
HAVE EXPLOITED FOR YEARS, knowing that earlier horses have a huge
advantage since stamina is disappearing in the breed. In 1990, in
Unbridled's Kentucky Derby BLOODHORSE issue, the editor's published a
long winded editorial I wrote about just this thing and received good
feedback from reader's who agreed with my contention that without
graded stakes stamina tests, the breed would ultimately be doomed.
EQUATIONS need balance, and when speed is overwhelming this one and
stamina is under represented, that equation just cannot endure.

If you do not provide a GRADED stakes platform to allow breeder's to
understand where stamina lines come from at that level of competition,
it will be just a guess as to where those genetic lines come from. The
Breeder's Cup MARATHON was a real joke this year and all you had to do
was bet all the European horses. THEIR idea of a marathon is the Ascot
GOLD CUP, a race of 20 furlongs, and there are many of them. Muhannak
was stamina laden with turf pedigree on the top and bottom and even
the "dirt" is no longer sacrosanct to the North American speed types.

Time to wake up or the times for European dominance of these WORLD
championships is just beginning.

10-27-2008, 01:43 PM	#8
Rverge Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh, now! Lancaster, CA. Posts: 2,531	1-5 @ pha __________________ i love every single minute of life, and, if one is lucky,then you must give it to others.

10-27-2008, 01:54 PM	#9
Rverge Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh, now! Lancaster, CA. Posts: 2,531	too many FTS 2 yo in next @ pha but i'll say 1-7 __________________ i love every single minute of life, and, if one is lucky,then you must give it to others.

10-27-2008, 01:55 PM	#10
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	[QUOTE=Rverge;42317]Hi guys! how are all? any thoughts about BC day? /QUOTE] Like I said elsewhere, the short-sightedness of NA breeders has now come back to haunt them in having NO stamina in the breed. The Europeans provide a graded stakes platform in order to find those sires that produce stamina and the idiots here keep SHORTENING them... Brilliant!!! The last stamina dominant chef de race was Run the Gauntlet and that was 30 years ago. Breed speed to speed and then temper it with loose medication rules and you have bleeders breediing bleeders, NO BONE to increase those nasty breakdowns and NO lung capacity. here is that note I wrote about it:I believe the events of this year's WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS are the beginning of a need to "wake up" the North American breeding industry to the fact that STAMINA is disappering from their offspring. Myself, and my good friend Erwin (leftcoastracing.com, a Hasting's website devoted to an aspect called his "stayers watch" for stamina horses and his lamenting, like I do, that it is disappaering) have harped on it for years: breed speed to speed and eventually we are going to have 4 furlong horses. It is this aspect of racing that I HAVE EXPLOITED FOR YEARS, knowing that earlier horses have a huge advantage since stamina is disappearing in the breed. In 1990, in Unbridled's Kentucky Derby BLOODHORSE issue, the editor's published a long winded editorial I wrote about just this thing and received good feedback from reader's who agreed with my contention that without graded stakes stamina tests, the breed would ultimately be doomed. EQUATIONS need balance, and when speed is overwhelming this one and stamina is under represented, that equation just cannot endure. If you do not provide a GRADED stakes platform to allow breeder's to understand where stamina lines come from at that level of competition, it will be just a guess as to where those genetic lines come from. The Breeder's Cup MARATHON was a real joke this year and all you had to do was bet all the European horses. THEIR idea of a marathon is the Ascot GOLD CUP, a race of 20 furlongs, and there are many of them. Muhannak was stamina laden with turf pedigree on the top and bottom and even the "dirt" is no longer sacrosanct to the North American speed types. Time to wake up or the times for European dominance of these WORLD championships is just beginning. Last edited by Tim Y; 10-27-2008 at 02:11 PM.

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10-27-2008, 09:42 AM	#1
albatross Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 118	10\27 Picks Meadowland R2 #4 win R5 #2 win R6 #4 win R7 #2 win Delware R4 #5 win

10-27-2008, 12:17 PM	#2
Rverge Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh, now! Lancaster, CA. Posts: 2,531	Pha suf Hi guys! how are all? any thoughts about BC day? i did not do very good. didn't hit 1 win bet. 2 2nds w/ no place bets. bet the 9 to show instead of win and got 21$ in the turf sprint. 2 small ex(as savor's) and that was it. even my "box" did't have a light. its dark at Wheeling downs. oh well back to Pha and suf #1 glittery star look like the winner @ pha 1 __________________ i love every single minute of life, and, if one is lucky,then you must give it to others.

10-27-2008, 12:52 PM	#4
Rverge Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh, now! Lancaster, CA. Posts: 2,531	1-3 pha __________________ i love every single minute of life, and, if one is lucky,then you must give it to others.

10-27-2008, 01:03 PM	#5
albatross Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 118	Bc Don't think that was bad they were running for ya.Besides a lot of race were euro winner.Had two winners for the day one paid $14.00 other $8.00 and looking back i think should have had $75.00 winner in race #2 But the euro i know nothing about but with new surface may have to and definately for B.C day and tripple crown races.

10-27-2008, 01:42 PM	#7
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	4 could be all alone in the 4th at Philly with the 1, 3, 7 chasing