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11-21-2012, 07:53 PM | #1 |
The egg man
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Esp
From Pace Makes The Race
Pages 63 -64 ESP The Configuration of a Race By Dick Schmidt and Tom Hambeton When looking at a race, the first question you should try to answer is: How is this race going to be run? Is it probably going to be won wire to wire, or is a horse from the back of the pact likely to run down the leaders?. In PIRCO, Tom Brohamer first incorporated this traditional racing concept, and Dr Sartin refined it. What I do is note in big letters with a marker one of the following designations for each horse in the race E for Early, EP for Early Presser, P for Presser, and S for Sustained. I also use an additional designation of NF for a horse that in my opinion has no form. After I have an idea of how many Early, Early Pressers, Pressers and Sustained horses are in the race I have an idea of how to approach the race and which ratings I will give particular attention Lets start with a quick definition of each of these designations. 1 E - Early : These horses in their good efforts always try for the lead at the first call 2 EP Early Presser : These horses tend to run first second or third and less than 2 beaten lengths at the second call in sprints, and less than three (3) beaten lengths in routes. These are not hard and fast rules, but guidelines. 3, P - Presser: These horses tend to run third fourth or fifth and are more than two lengths back at the second call in a sprint and three in routes 4. S - Sustained These horses run in the back half of the field and are usually more than four length's behind at the second call in a sprint and five in a route. 5 NF - No Form - A horse that has been badly beaten in its last few races, making no showing an any part of the race. Don't be too quick in giving a NF. as once you have done so , you have essentially eliminated it from any further consideration. I recommend that you do a rating on every horse top pace line before you consign it to the scrap heap. Now back to handicapping. After labeling each horse, see how many of each type there are and begin to develope a mental picture of the running of the race. For Instance, if most of the races at your track are being won by that are less than 5 lenghts behind at the second call and are in the front half of the field , you would look at you E, EP, and P, horses for the logical win contenders, This does not mean Sustained horses are to be totally ignored Rather, it means that in order for a sustained horse to be taken seriously It must have superior credentials when compared to the field it is facing , With ESP designations, you are you are able to take a look at a unique herd of horses and see how each individual horses participation in the race ultimately effects the other horsesH That is a important lesson I typed it from the book rather than take a screen shot I would like you all to do a little work and post your views I would like to show the PP's of two horses Based only on ESP Were would you expext these two horse to be in a race Is either horse most likely to be in the lead are they more likely to be just behind the a leader Do you see based on ESP any indication thye can run down and pass horses as sustained horses need to do ? Be honset here. please don't look at any other readout or the results from this race I would like to add more details later for now just look at the PP lines and mark your ESP designation Last edited by Bill V.; 11-21-2012 at 07:58 PM. |
11-22-2012, 12:43 PM | #2 |
The egg man
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Running style
How did you do ?
Here is what I see. Based on the guidelines posted above I would call the 4 horse an Early Early Presser or E/EP It has won wire to wire twice The four shows 5 plus races in its PP's. In all 5 of these races it was 1st at the first call or less than 2 beaten lengths back It has shown the ability to pass horses If it can't get the lead it will press This horse is a key horse You must use your tools. In todays race will this horse get the lead or will it press the horse who gets the lead ? Using a comparable paceline were will this horse be at the First Fraction? Turn Time (2nd Fraction ) and second call EP ? Horse 7 is an Early horse It is also probably a Need The Lead horse It shows 6 plus races. it won one of them wire to wire This horse trys for the lead in every race This horse has not shown any ability to pass horse Again use a proper pace line always begin with the last race Don't make excuses ! This horse is a key horse You must use your tools. In todays race will this horse get the lead or will it press the horse who gets the lead ? Do you truly belive this horse as the ability to overtake horses in the strech if it does not get the lead today ? Using a comparable paceline, Where will this horse be at the F1, Turn Time (2nd Fraction ) and second call EP how are you doing ? Last edited by Bill V.; 11-22-2012 at 12:45 PM. |
11-23-2012, 09:12 AM | #3 |
Grade 3
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Hi Bill,horse 4 1st horse 7 2nd
cody |
11-24-2012, 11:41 AM | #4 |
The egg man
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Cody
That is a good observation Cody But as is usually the case the
pressing horse is presumed to pass the early horse In a match race between these two horses the RDSS has the 7 breaking on top. The 4 pressing the 7 in both F1 and F2 The 4 has a very slight advantage in the Feet Per Second 3rd fraction Plus RDSS adds the FPS Total pace readout So the 3rd panel and RDSS shows the 4 beating the 7 The 7 is a Need The Lead horse The 4 has shown the ability to pass horses in the stretch When we do races Its very important to do your ESP notations and when you see horses like the 7 Its important to see if another horse or horses will cause the NTL to be relagated to becoming a presser The 4 (Mom) and 7 come out of the same race The 7 could not get the lead because Clean Jean did The 7 pressed the leader Clean Jean The 4 mom was able to pass the 7 in the stretch Last edited by Bill V.; 11-24-2012 at 11:45 AM. |
11-25-2012, 09:12 AM | #5 |
Grade 3
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Thanks Bill,thats what its all about learning.
Cody |
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