"The Hat's" Power Lines

[RichieP]

[QUOTE=mufasa;21593
You had given me before on a final time adjustment for different distances 6.2/5 as a solid and proven figure to adjust final times. I am using this and thank you for that. I wonder if this would apply to adjusting the ½-mile time in a Power Line for different distances but of course a fraction of it. I am thinking maybe a half to one-third of the 6+ seconds.
Thanks,
Robert
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I was NEVER taught to adjust the 2nd call based on anything other than observing tracks that were either very fast or very slow. These adjustments are made mentally and rely more on "feel" or "instinct" Mu.

The advantage of matching Jim's way is you have TEN pp lines to look at to evaluate. that often allows one to not have to focus on ONE line and instead see the "whole picture" of the horse.

Folks do not like to hear that as it is not concrete/set in stone stuff but it's real man. Thats how I was taught and I am passing it along HONESTLY.

Richie

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by Turbulator

Richie,
3. None of the power lines selected show a horse taking the lead. Even though there are a couple of earlies in the race, especially the 6, Indian Vale. This horse will most likely go to the front.

In that case why wouldn't you use a power line that has at least one of the horses taking the lead. Or does that even matter? What am I missing?
Thanks

A "Power Line" is the fastest pace of race showing where the horse finished competitively. Regardless of track or where it is in the past performances.

Let's SEPERATE the other stuff and FOCUS on WHAT is a Power Line.

[mufasa]

Originally Posted by RichieP

"Mu"
The one thing Jim asks is that here in THIS area we do NOT discuss anything related to software and adjusted data readouts ok? Your question is better off posted in RDSS forum.

I use RDSS because I LOVE the paceline screen which shows the raw data in a format I like. The colors point to the earlies and I can assemble the lines on a screen to do some funny stuff with and also "match up". All this is done using only RAW data which is why I post it here.

Jim does NOT like the screen as the colors distract his eye from the whole past performance of the horse.

Richie

Rich:

I apologize. I will try to make sure it does not happen again. I just wanted to talk about auto adjustment of ½-mile times vs. something more basic and a paper and pencil way of adjusting directly. This would be preferable because of scratches once at the track.

Thanks,

Robert

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by mufasa

Rich:

I apologize. I will try to make sure it does not happen again. I just wanted to talk about auto adjustment of ½-mile times vs. something more basic and a paper and pencil way of adjusting directly. This would be preferable because of scratches once at the track.
Thanks,
Robert

NOTHING to apologize for Robert. You didn't know.

Jim knows you are really working on learning this stuff and I hope I can do my best to relate his way of doing things that YOU can grasp and use to make you better. That's my job.

[sdahl]

Hi Rich. What does Jim consider to be competitive. Is that finishing in the money or the closest finish in terms of lengths.

[Nets]

Sometimes I stop in wonder at what is presented here on this site. To learn of The Hat's thoughts and processes of handicapping is amazing. Thanks to Richie for giving us so much info and in a way that always makes us feel welcome to participate and ask questions. I feel so fortunate to have found this site. To be given access to the knowledge of The Hat, Richie, Bill, Ted and all those who post is incredible. I can never thank all of you enough.

All the best

Gary

P.S. I FINALLY got on the board in the Summer Stakes!

[Turbulator]

Originally Posted by RichieP

A "Power Line" is the fastest pace of race showing where the horse finished competitively. Regardless of track or where it is in the past performances.

Let's SEPERATE the other stuff and FOCUS on WHAT is a Power Line.

No problem. What about my other question on the nine horse, which relates directly to what is a power line, and how do you select it?

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by Turbulator

No problem. What about my other question on the nine horse, which relates directly to what is a power line, and how do you select it?

Steve I would NOT use that as a Power Line as he lost BOTH beaten lengths and position 1c-2c.

Jim will see this and answer.
Rich

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by RichieP

Steve I would NOT use that as a Power Line as he lost BOTH beaten lengths and position 1c-2c.
Jim will see this and answer.
Rich

Steve,

1) I showed Jim the 9 horse's pp's. He would NOT use line 2 as a power line for the reason I stated. He WOULD consider lines 3 and 4 as power lines.

2) "Once we have established power lines for all the horses in the race then each horse's power line is matched against each other to eliminate non contenders in today's race" - The Hat

Jim will come and lay out a few things of interest about the race shown.

Then we will go into some things to watch for when looking at power lines DEEP in the horse's pp's ok? Jim showed me this a while back and it really is pretty cool.

Richie

[VoodooFan]

Originally Posted by RichieP

Other races the power lines can be deep in the horses pp's. Then a few things or "checks" have to be done to justify getting to that line but for now let's handle the race shown.Richie

Hope this point is shown. Even if I'm not gonna use that LAST line, it's sometimes hard to get past. Finding reasonable excuses , 1st time on track, REAL trouble, Pace much faster than projected "TODAY", etc,. The BIGGEST problem of all that I have with the last line is simply to determine FITNESS,and sometimes, without either a REASONABLE excuse or some trouble I can or can't percieve, you look at that last line and say "he just did'nt run at all, not even trying, not even at ONE call ". So you throw the horse out. VoodooFan