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Old 02-29-2020, 07:18 AM   #11
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How does one know if something improves results?

One has to move on to find out whether it or something works. A closed mind is a missed opportunity. No one can determine if something works without giving it a fair trial, Howard was continually testing etc. to make a better mousetrap. Resting on his initial success would have been a huge mistake.Advancements are only achieved by trial and error.

Sartin statement is also taken out of context because he knew they didn't have a better solution and it was a subliminal challenge. After all why were they there if they were so successful? In fact why do people gravitate to this site? They want to learn and are looking to improve results. Some do while others have an inner desire to lose and lack the mindset to succeed. And yes misery does want company as it justifies their loses.

Yes there are some NIP's (Negative influence people) wherever we go to include this site. One should always be on guard as their always seeking company. If you want to learn something than learn from winners and the best. Sartin was ahead of his day and his present day RDSS was his ultimate solution to a complex problem that far exceeds any pace program out there. It has remained valid even many years after his passing.

Yes there are those who lack ambition, don't like change and refuse to accept modern day advancements, they also tend to be under achievers or losers. That's OK through as we need their money in the mutual pools.

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Old 02-29-2020, 04:35 PM   #12
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Best is what works best for you

To clarify, my understanding was that Howard wanted to improve lives though winning with the methodology. Perhaps the earliest iteration of this was the truck drivers many or most of whom stopped gambling after they knew they could win. He was a flexible thinker and welcomed input from other persons, inviting Mark Cramer to speak and credited others saying that he only borrowed from the best. When asked which was the best program he analogized to cars noting that a Rolls Royce would not be the best choice for transporting manure. Using this template, the best program is the one that works for you and your objectives.
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Old 03-01-2020, 09:45 AM   #13
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Using your analogy I would say that RDSS is the Rolls Royce of programs having to do with any Sartin programs or those that are offshoots of his research.

Its one thing being transported in a Rolls and quite another to recognize a Rolls when observed. That's what so great about life,one can choose a Rolls or travel in a septic tank truck. Choice is a great thing.

I thought everyone's objective was more winning and success, than again I suppose not. I believe this thread has been reached its maximum velocity and potential. I'll leave you with this as its important for me to move on and get more winners.

"You will never reach your destination if you stop at every dog that barks."
~ Winston Churchill

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Old 03-01-2020, 01:09 PM   #14
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I really do not think there is anything wrong using the older programs.
In my situation I cant afford RDSS as it does not fit into my budget so
I use Synergism 3 with a 10 year old par file and it still works.

I know RDSS is a superior program but one has to do what is best
for them.
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Old 03-01-2020, 07:37 PM   #15
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Well said,Shoe
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:40 PM   #16
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How do you know if something improves your results?

Don't you keep a track model?
That will tell you if you W% or your ROI improves. And where.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:07 PM   #17
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Thanks Lefty
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