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Houndog · 10-21-2009, 12:25 PM

The major advantage I can see with an automated paceline method is that you will have a degree of consistency as opposed to zigging and zagging all over the place.

A person should have the ability to look at more races and more time for readout interpretation.

For The Lead · 10-21-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Houndog

The major advantage I can see with an automated paceline method is that you will have a degree of consistency as opposed to zigging and zagging all over the place.

A person should have the ability to look at more races and more time for readout interpretation.

You are quite correct. I have been using automated pace lines for several years in a program of my own. Before you even get started you have to make a decision as to what you will be satisfied with as an end result. The computer does not “read” the form, it just looks at pace lines based on the criteria built into the program. Then you begin the constant trial and error making sure the program is picking the line you intended it to pick. And even when you are done “tweaking it”, until you actually run a very large sample of races, you really don’t know if you have been successful or not. Fortunately for RDSS users, Ted is doing the hard part. Once you have the ability in your hands all that is left is for each user to set up their own personal choices of pace line selection. That is where the users work begins.
As you said, it is consistent, so if you keep decision models based on the automated pace line selections you set up, those will be the results from which you will also make a decision on whether or not you like the parameters you used when setting up the automated pace line selection process. If, after gathering a very large sample of races in your decision models, you are happy with what you see, then you are “off to the races” so to speak.
I can tell you that in the beginning it was very hard for me. I was so used to making pace line decisions on my own that it seemed to me that I was always second guessing, but in the end I decided that I achieved what I was looking for, consistency. Computer programs don’t have headaches, bad hair days or outside feelings brought on by real world events, it just picks pace lines, the same way every day.
And, again, you are correct that this allows you to spend more time on interpreting your readouts and looking at more races.

RichieP · 10-25-2009, 06:01 AM

Testing my selector template on today's NYB turf stakes at Belmont. Hope they run them with this being last day for the meet what would they "save it" for?

Anyway here is the 7th race "Ticonderoga" going 9f

Top 3 Bl/Bl (2,7,4)have good gap and own most of corollaries.

The #7 Love Code is highest ml odds of the 3 at 5/1 and also appears to be positionally advantaged looking at his EP style.

RichieP · 10-25-2009, 06:08 AM

Belmont 9th:

Here is the 9f Mohawk on the grass

Big fav Banrock is no giant looking at the lineup.

Looking at top 3 Bl/Bl the #1 "Hanging" is top 3 total energy and best Deceleration. Nice combo going long distance at 8/1 ml showing.

Bill V. · 10-25-2009, 11:14 AM

Hi Rich
looking at your lines choices you sure have no problem going way back

GS on the Belmont weeds

There coming from Mars !!
fractals and chaos

Bill

mikesal57 · 10-25-2009, 12:07 PM

Hi guys...

On Pace and Cap Day we had seen Love Cove have a nice easy lead and then chucked it...and with the 8 & 9 in this race he'll probably have to run faster to stay closer to the lead..

The turf most likely be yielding with all the rain we had yesterday..

Why did MARAGH go to the #2 when he won twice on the #4???

Anyway..I think the 2 can close better than the 4 on an off turf..

#2 win...

gl

mike

RichieP · 10-25-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill V.

Hi Rich
looking at your lines choices you sure have no problem going way back

GS on the Belmont weeds

There coming from Mars !!
fractals and chaos

Bill

Hey Bill!
Just came in from the park. Nice sunny day, women running amuck

Here are the 7th and 9th reduced to top 5 Bl/Bl after scratches

mikesal57 · 10-25-2009, 12:21 PM

Hi Richie...

Just looked at the 9TH...

Bancock will be the big fav...I like the 5 he was in this race last year and lost by a length and a half with a trouble trip..coming in this race in form and maybe be the ex .

gl

mike

Bill V. · 10-25-2009, 12:54 PM

Hello Rich and Mike

Yes Mike that was Pace and Cap day for love cove
line 2

Bill V. · 10-25-2009, 01:02 PM

Looks like Love cove won this race last year -line 7

10-21-2009, 12:25 PM	#21
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Consistent Paceline Selections The major advantage I can see with an automated paceline method is that you will have a degree of consistency as opposed to zigging and zagging all over the place. A person should have the ability to look at more races and more time for readout interpretation.

10-25-2009, 06:01 AM	#23
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	Grass stakes at Belmont Testing my selector template on today's NYB turf stakes at Belmont. Hope they run them with this being last day for the meet what would they "save it" for? Anyway here is the 7th race "Ticonderoga" going 9f Top 3 Bl/Bl (2,7,4)have good gap and own most of corollaries. The #7 Love Code is highest ml odds of the 3 at 5/1 and also appears to be positionally advantaged looking at his EP style. Attached Images

10-25-2009, 06:08 AM	#24
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	Mohawk Belmont 9th: Here is the 9f Mohawk on the grass Big fav Banrock is no giant looking at the lineup. Looking at top 3 Bl/Bl the #1 "Hanging" is top 3 total energy and best Deceleration. Nice combo going long distance at 8/1 ml showing. Attached Images

10-25-2009, 11:14 AM	#25
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	lines Hi Rich looking at your lines choices you sure have no problem going way back GS on the Belmont weeds There coming from Mars !! fractals and chaos Bill

10-25-2009, 12:07 PM	#26
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	My take on the 7TH Hi guys... On Pace and Cap Day we had seen Love Cove have a nice easy lead and then chucked it...and with the 8 & 9 in this race he'll probably have to run faster to stay closer to the lead.. The turf most likely be yielding with all the rain we had yesterday.. Why did MARAGH go to the #2 when he won twice on the #4??? Anyway..I think the 2 can close better than the 4 on an off turf.. #2 win... gl mike __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

10-25-2009, 12:21 PM	#28
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	Hi Richie... Just looked at the 9TH... Bancock will be the big fav...I like the 5 he was in this race last year and lost by a length and a half with a trouble trip..coming in this race in form and maybe be the ex . gl mike __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

10-25-2009, 12:54 PM	#29
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Race 7 Hello Rich and Mike Yes Mike that was Pace and Cap day for love cove line 2 Attached Images

10-25-2009, 01:02 PM	#30
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Love cove Looks like Love cove won this race last year -line 7