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Old 04-15-2016, 02:04 PM   #31
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Past performances of some of the top contenders

Here is an early look of some of the past performance lines of the top Derby contenders....

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Old 04-15-2016, 02:07 PM   #32
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Old 04-15-2016, 02:08 PM   #33
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Old 04-17-2016, 11:08 AM   #34
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Arkansas Derby chart

Arkansas Derby Chart:

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The horses that were at the back of the pack after the fast early pace set by Gettysburg were the first three finishers at the wire. Looking at the early pace run over the Oaklawn Park race track which is deep and similar to Churchill; this race fell apart as indicated by the 4F pace in 46 1/5 and 6Furlongs in 110 3/5 and the last 3/8ths in 39 2/5.

Creator 6F in 112 3/5 and final 3/8ths in 37 2/5
Suddenbrekingnews (owner's spelling) 6F in 112 2/5 and final 3/8ths in 37 3/5- accounting for troubled trip
Whitmore 6F in 112 1/5 and final 3/8ths in 38.0

Gettyburg's fast early pace doomed Baffert's Cupid who never faced such early pace pressure in his prior prep races.

This was a disappointing Derby prep season as there were few stellar performances. Indeed, we have an undefeated champion colt in Nyquist; but looking at energy distributions and (whatever) speed numbers- it has been a mediocre 3 year-old colt crop this year. Yes, we have the undefeated and untested 3 year-old filly Songbird.....
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Old 04-17-2016, 11:11 AM   #35
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Final 2016 Kentucky Derby points total

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The top twenty points leaders will comprise the 2016 Derby field pending late scratches or defections.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:55 PM   #36
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Latest Derby update:

According to Drf.com

Trainer Bob Baffert has remove Cupid from the Derby, which will allow Mo Tom to be part of the 20 horse field.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:29 PM   #37
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Anyone know where I can get Lan's past performances. They are only ones I have not found as yet.

Agree with LS, about non spectacular prep results. None of the top five or so mile times from a marathon standpoint appear to be coming from the most recent races, not what you would like to see from horses supposedly on the improve. For instance, Mohaymen has the 1st and 4th best mile time from races in January and February, but appeared to regress vs. Nyquist. I am thinking that with the way the top contenders like to race that OTE types will prevail, and heaven knows how many we have seen charge from way behind this year. What with traffic and all, it might call for a big spread for win on Derby day.

I will have more when the field is finalized later in the month.
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:33 PM   #38
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pps of Lani-Japanese import

UAE Derby winner:

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Old 04-18-2016, 05:47 PM   #39
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Thanks Lone Speed, that really adds clarity to the info pool, don't you think!!??
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:39 PM   #40
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Thanks Lone Speed, that really adds clarity to the info pool, don't you think!!??
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Here is a link to past race video of races of Lani..

http://www.horseracingnation.com/horse/Lani#
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