"Matchup2 Book" - Help needed - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 12-15-2009, 06:29 AM

A "Matcher" contacted me privately and asked my help with the "Balancing the 3rd Fraction" chapter in Jim's last book. He is looking for a better understanding of it.

I told him that I was not taught that way by Jim and unfortunately couldn't help him as I really had no clue.

This has been bothering me for days so I put out a call here to folks:
If YOU have an understanding of what Hat was getting across here PLEASE consider taking the time to give feedback/comments to this most sincere "Matcher".

Thank you

jwolpert · 12-15-2009, 09:17 AM

In Issue 12 of the Followup - Bradshaw talks about this. Don't know if this is what you want but check it out.

mikesal57 · 12-15-2009, 10:10 AM

Hello Richie

and thxs jw for that info...

although it was mentioned in the Hat-Check Forum ," a unit of energy exerted at the beginning causes 2 units lost at the end" , it was never put to practical use.
From what I see , if you have multiple horses (or matching earlies) fighting for the lead The Hat projected a faster pace and adjusted the pacelines of those early horses accordingly . With that now adjusted line , maybe that closer that you thought didn't have a chance to catch him...could now.

If there is any matchers out there that use fractional times or adjusting pacelines or even want to get this going again...PLEASE DO....

Dont let The Match-Up fade away...

mike

mikesal57 · 12-15-2009, 10:11 AM

last part

RichieP · 12-15-2009, 03:31 PM

"Karmatic" result in Beulah's 6th race today

Winner - Diamond Jim
Place - LeRoi

**Truth is stranger than any fiction ever written**

Ted Craven · 12-15-2009, 03:47 PM

...

Bill V. · 12-15-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieP

"Karmatic" result in Beulah's 6th race today

Winner - Diamond Jim
Place - LeRoi

**Truth is stranger than any fiction ever written**

Rich and Ted

I had to bet this one
just a little change in bet stucture but BR
for the Bradshaw race worked

dlivery · 12-15-2009, 05:29 PM

Hi Mike

First time reply to your post I would agree to this is a long way as being what we we all are looking is the answer to the horses ability to conserve his energy and expel his energy when it is ready to and explode and pass the leader.

I had a same question about this as well a while back and never posted but re reading this concept has cleared my thoughts as well on this as I believe this is stated in the yellow manual.

Good follow up response

12-15-2009, 06:29 AM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	"Matchup2 Book" - Help needed A "Matcher" contacted me privately and asked my help with the "Balancing the 3rd Fraction" chapter in Jim's last book. He is looking for a better understanding of it. I told him that I was not taught that way by Jim and unfortunately couldn't help him as I really had no clue. This has been bothering me for days so I put out a call here to folks: If YOU have an understanding of what Hat was getting across here PLEASE consider taking the time to give feedback/comments to this most sincere "Matcher". Thank you

12-15-2009, 09:17 AM	#2
jwolpert Racing Form Only Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 33	Third Fraction-Bradshaw In Issue 12 of the Followup - Bradshaw talks about this. Don't know if this is what you want but check it out.

12-15-2009, 10:10 AM	#3
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	Hello Richie and thxs jw for that info... although it was mentioned in the Hat-Check Forum ," a unit of energy exerted at the beginning causes 2 units lost at the end" , it was never put to practical use. From what I see , if you have multiple horses (or matching earlies) fighting for the lead The Hat projected a faster pace and adjusted the pacelines of those early horses accordingly . With that now adjusted line , maybe that closer that you thought didn't have a chance to catch him...could now. If there is any matchers out there that use fractional times or adjusting pacelines or even want to get this going again...PLEASE DO.... Dont let The Match-Up fade away... mike Attached Images __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

12-15-2009, 10:11 AM	#4
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	last part Attached Images __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

12-15-2009, 03:31 PM	#5
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	"Karmatic" result in Beulah's 6th race today Winner - Diamond Jim Place - LeRoi Truth is stranger than any fiction ever written Attached Images Last edited by RichieP; 12-15-2009 at 03:36 PM.

12-15-2009, 03:47 PM	#6
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,854	... __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

12-15-2009, 05:29 PM	#8
dlivery Grade 1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Thornhill ON Posts: 437	Hi Mike First time reply to your post I would agree to this is a long way as being what we we all are looking is the answer to the horses ability to conserve his energy and expel his energy when it is ready to and explode and pass the leader. I had a same question about this as well a while back and never posted but re reading this concept has cleared my thoughts as well on this as I believe this is stated in the yellow manual. Good follow up response __________________ May all wagers be Winners...

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