KGEN Sprints review

[ssag0]

Any reason why you left out the first and second place finishers from the contenders?

[Bill V.]

Because in this race I was demonstrating how to do a typical sprint race
What pace line would you use for the winner, ?
I did include the winner on my pick 4 ticked as a 4th tier " c "
Because of the trainer and 3/1 morning line.
But to demo the race properly , before the fact , I need a pace line
So no line, no results

Lastly my key horse was the 2 which was scratched so until I rerun the race I am not sure exactly what the winner and place horse get
Bill

[ssag0]

Leaving out 2 speed horses including the fastest 1/4 time horse on the page on a fast track?The 1a is hard for me to understand leaving out? I know you didn't realize the 2 was a scratch but the 1a is faster to the quarter and the half on a fast track how can he be left out? By the way I am in no way criticizing your work.Also a side note over the years working with the Sartin stuff and various other pace treatments there is one thing that is overwhelmingly clear to me,THE GAME CANNOT BE BEAT BY MATH.It sure helps but we have all run zillions of races through all our programs and continually leave out the winner or get beat by any number of other factors that trump pace and our little,programs,Connections,new trainer, new owner, lasix, gelded, hot jockey, bad trip, a never ending list of reasons the game cant be beat by math alone.

[Bill V.]

So thank you for answering your own question, this race is an example of the type of race were other factors won, I asked for a pace line . Because this was a demo of how
Howard Sartin him self did races with KGEN
To demo the program I need a pace line .
When I actually bet this race for my pick 4 I did get the 1A ranked 4th but I used
adjusted lines , and RDSS Val 4 .The man who requested the demo is old school and hand enters his pacelines raw, So I did the race , because it just happened to be the race I had last done

I could have very easily picked a race that had a ready run and made a nice tidy perfect presentation, but the man who requested the race, in my opinion probably gets more out of learning when races are done before the fact , I have known him since this place started. I have handicapped with him in person many times live racetracks ,I know his skills.
I could have also just answered him in a email But I despise doing race work ups
Or any Sartin related work in private messages .Ted and I have invested many long hours and funds over the years to keep this place as the premier Sartin, Match Up discussion board, So I'm going to use it,

So I have a question for you , Would you have posted this race, before the fact, long before you knew scratches or the track conditions? Would your subject be,
Here is a race were math does not win, and then before the fact , ,show the race with Sartin program readout, that show the winner ranked near the bottom ,
But then say your who your bets were,
I appreciate your Match Up skills but there is plenty of Match Up talk in the hat check area, This was just a demo of steps for a specific program

Thanks
Bill

[Bill V.]

Here is the rerun with the #2 scratched
This time I entered 1 line for each horse

BTW here on the RDSS screen we see the 1 ranked 4th on BLBL
The actual winner 1A is 6th On RX3 (not shown) they are the same 4th and 6th

[Bill V.]

I will do the same thing
I will keep as contenders any horse in the rop 3 of the 6 line graphs

Raw SP


Raw EP


1SP

[Bill V.]

1ep



2sp



2ep

[Bill V.]

Top 3 on the 6 line graphs



the 4 5 6 dominate

The 2x 1 and 1A do not show up till the 2 adjust EP

I will eliminate the 3 and 7

[Bill V.]

Taking out the 3 and 7
still leaves me with 6 horses

Thoromation works best with 4 or less horses
So .
I will run the preplay option and take the top 4 finishers on both screens

First one to come up is the EP so KGEN thinks the race will run normal
If the SP comes up first KGEN variegates the race other than early

The top 4 on both screens are the 4 5 6 and solid 1
out go the 1A and the 2X

EX


SP

[Bill V.]

Now I have my 4 contenders

4, 5, 6 and 1

First Thoromation 1 adjust


This is with the 2 adjust


Results The 1A wins
Closes, other than early