conflicting reads live race - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 07-12-2006, 08:15 PM

here is race 5 tonight from Evd - 5.5f

ok after following steps outlined in another thread I am now down to 4 horses.

why post this one?

check the reads on the # 9 horse please

2nd raw total energy
1st on early exdc
2nd on late exdc

yet the horse does NOT show on either "paragon".

varie - sustained

here are screen shots beginning with the engen

really gotta love this ****

this race AFTER it runs will answer all kinds of questions ( assuming I have the winner shown

) . They always do!

Rich

RichieP · 07-12-2006, 08:17 PM

RichieP · 07-12-2006, 08:18 PM

next one

RichieP · 07-12-2006, 08:18 PM

ok next

Houndog · 07-12-2006, 09:09 PM

Richie, this is just an observation. If you add F1 and F2 for both the 2 and 9 who has the greater number? If you add F2 and F3 for the same horses who has the greater number? I am not really sure if this is significant or not.

Conversely if you add the 1st and 2nd as well as the 2nd and 3rd in the Exdc Match-Up Screens who comes up lowest? These are supposed to be defiency numbers per fraction. Again not sure if this is significant or not. That F2 for 9 may be the cause of the conflicting readouts. I will very interested in what your observations are after the race.

Rxlawyer · 07-12-2006, 09:25 PM

Richie:

This is a very tough race. 8, 1, and 2 are closely matched early. 2 is the only presser identified in the race. 2 is also the highest total energy horse. If all of the selected pacelines are not abberant then I would look at the race as follows: 8 and 1 look like they will get the lead. 1 looks like it might be able to very slightly dominate 8. 2 should make a move during the 2nd part of the race. 9 should be right behind it. 9 looks like it will hang in the stretch. 9 will only win if the three in front collapse. Not likely. If the paceline for 2 is valid then 2 will win. If not then 1 will win. That is my 2 cents.

Gary

RichieP · 07-12-2006, 09:42 PM

all a moot point as the 6 wins at 9/5 I used the last line and projected nowhere for ME

1 runs second also chalk

wanna see the result chart of how the race ran

thanx guys for the feedback!
Rich

pp's for the 6

shoeless · 07-12-2006, 10:26 PM

KUDOS to all three of you,this is what I personally was hoping would happen.Jeff

shoeless · 07-12-2006, 10:34 PM

The horse that won was coming off a 10,000 open claiming race back to a non winners 4 lifetime.Actually that start doesnt look that bad the first 2 horses finished 10 lenghts ahead of the field.Jeff

admin · 07-13-2006, 01:33 AM

Hi Rich
The 6 is just a pain in the ear hide horse winner
Here is my screen shot using Spec
The winner ranks 5th
I saw nothing in its recent form
Except a clear class advantage
I did a APV/Class which i inserted into the corner
The six has a good advantage. I went down to a resonable( I think)
race 3 line. For sure if you use the race 6 or all the way back
to race A the six will rank better
I also noted on the next screen that like Jeff said The six is dropping from a open $10,000 were it showed good EP in its first race off a Layoff
It like the crowd thought handled these $5000ers easy
My bets if I did this race would have been the 1 and 8
looking back now a 1 6 8 exbox would not have been good
either. It paid $19.00

07-12-2006, 08:15 PM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	conflicting reads live race here is race 5 tonight from Evd - 5.5f ok after following steps outlined in another thread I am now down to 4 horses. why post this one? check the reads on the # 9 horse please 2nd raw total energy 1st on early exdc 2nd on late exdc yet the horse does NOT show on either "paragon". varie - sustained here are screen shots beginning with the engen really gotta love this **** this race AFTER it runs will answer all kinds of questions ( assuming I have the winner shown ) . They always do! Rich Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-12-2006, 08:17 PM	#2
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	next Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-12-2006, 08:18 PM	#3
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	next one Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-12-2006, 08:18 PM	#4
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	ok next Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-12-2006, 09:42 PM	#7
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	Result all a moot point as the 6 wins at 9/5 I used the last line and projected nowhere for ME 1 runs second also chalk wanna see the result chart of how the race ran thanx guys for the feedback! Rich pp's for the 6 Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-12-2006, 09:09 PM	#5
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Richie, this is just an observation. If you add F1 and F2 for both the 2 and 9 who has the greater number? If you add F2 and F3 for the same horses who has the greater number? I am not really sure if this is significant or not. Conversely if you add the 1st and 2nd as well as the 2nd and 3rd in the Exdc Match-Up Screens who comes up lowest? These are supposed to be defiency numbers per fraction. Again not sure if this is significant or not. That F2 for 9 may be the cause of the conflicting readouts. I will very interested in what your observations are after the race.

07-12-2006, 09:25 PM	#6
Rxlawyer Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 212	Richie: This is a very tough race. 8, 1, and 2 are closely matched early. 2 is the only presser identified in the race. 2 is also the highest total energy horse. If all of the selected pacelines are not abberant then I would look at the race as follows: 8 and 1 look like they will get the lead. 1 looks like it might be able to very slightly dominate 8. 2 should make a move during the 2nd part of the race. 9 should be right behind it. 9 looks like it will hang in the stretch. 9 will only win if the three in front collapse. Not likely. If the paceline for 2 is valid then 2 will win. If not then 1 will win. That is my 2 cents. Gary

07-12-2006, 10:26 PM	#8
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	KUDOS to all three of you,this is what I personally was hoping would happen.Jeff

07-12-2006, 10:34 PM	#9
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	The horse that won was coming off a 10,000 open claiming race back to a non winners 4 lifetime.Actually that start doesnt look that bad the first 2 horses finished 10 lenghts ahead of the field.Jeff

07-13-2006, 01:33 AM	#10
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	Hide horse Hi Rich The 6 is just a pain in the ear hide horse winner Here is my screen shot using Spec The winner ranks 5th I saw nothing in its recent form Except a clear class advantage I did a APV/Class which i inserted into the corner The six has a good advantage. I went down to a resonable( I think) race 3 line. For sure if you use the race 6 or all the way back to race A the six will rank better I also noted on the next screen that like Jeff said The six is dropping from a open $10,000 were it showed good EP in its first race off a Layoff It like the crowd thought handled these $5000ers easy My bets if I did this race would have been the 1 and 8 looking back now a 1 6 8 exbox would not have been good either. It paid $19.00 Attached Images

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