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shoeless · 12-16-2012, 11:48 AM

Horse racing for some people in the industry is a way to earn a living while stroking their ego and showing off their intellect.

Jim,

Really great point

Jeff

trotman · 12-18-2012, 11:07 PM

JimG and Shoeless here is my take on all of it. Michael Pizzolla been there, done that, and still doing that. To truly learn of what Michael says is to like his soft focus, read between the lines. No one can read his book and get it first time through period. You need to go back to it and then back to it again because it really is IMO a work of art. If you read it with preconcieved idea's right there your not going to get it. But if you rid yourself of all the other you will get it then, it's "Eureka".

shoeless · 12-19-2012, 05:30 AM

Trotman,

Good point .

Jeff

shoeless · 12-20-2012, 04:41 PM

This is a good point that I got from listening to one of Pizzola's
seminars

People using software get so wrapped up in the readouts that they
lose sight on how to handicap the race.

shoeless · 12-21-2012, 05:36 PM

I have been thinking about it and I guess the best way to pass or
play a race is if it has value.Also if the race falls under one of your
handicapping strengths.

For example GL45, he only plays Mountaineer and only at the 5000
claiming level and race has to have more then 6 horses.He might have
other restrictions but he seems to do very well.

I remember back in the old Prodigy days I bought a software from John
Rancount who used to own horses,it was called Horses n Courses.The
interesting thing was after you input your data the program told you what
horse to play and if you should bet it or not.

I think the software was ahead of it's time as I dont recall any others
that would do it.

As far as betting goes I dont have the slightest idea but do know that
you should have a game plan going in or it will be pure disaster.

trotman · 12-21-2012, 06:18 PM

Shoeless I would think that the 5,000 level at Mountaineer that GL45 plays is because he knows the various levels of classification within that 5,000 level
and he is specializing.

gl45 · 12-21-2012, 07:24 PM

Jeff,
4 mtp for race #2 at MNR..... 6/5-8 & 5-8 to win....... wish me luck

shoeless · 12-21-2012, 07:31 PM

Trotman,

Your right

Pino,

Good Luck

I thought Mountain was closed because I saw Deshawn Parker riding
at Tampa, he has over 300 wins this season.

JimG · 12-21-2012, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless

Trotman,

Your right

Pino,

Good Luck

I thought Mountain was closed because I saw Deshawn Parker riding
at Tampa, he has over 300 wins this season.

Closing night there. Will open again in March.

Jim

gl45 · 12-21-2012, 07:36 PM

I think tonight is the end of the meet.
No luck in race 2..... I had the contenders tho

12-18-2012, 11:07 PM	#12
trotman Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 259	JimG and Shoeless here is my take on all of it. Michael Pizzolla been there, done that, and still doing that. To truly learn of what Michael says is to like his soft focus, read between the lines. No one can read his book and get it first time through period. You need to go back to it and then back to it again because it really is IMO a work of art. If you read it with preconcieved idea's right there your not going to get it. But if you rid yourself of all the other you will get it then, it's "Eureka". __________________ "Success consists of simply getting back up one more time than you fall"

12-21-2012, 06:18 PM	#16
trotman Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 259	Shoeless I would think that the 5,000 level at Mountaineer that GL45 plays is because he knows the various levels of classification within that 5,000 level and he is specializing. __________________ "Success consists of simply getting back up one more time than you fall"

12-21-2012, 07:36 PM	#20
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	I think tonight is the end of the meet. No luck in race 2..... I had the contenders tho Last edited by gl45; 08-02-2017 at 08:40 AM.

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12-16-2012, 11:48 AM	#11
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Horse racing for some people in the industry is a way to earn a living while stroking their ego and showing off their intellect. Jim, Really great point Jeff

12-19-2012, 05:30 AM	#13
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Trotman, Good point . Jeff

12-20-2012, 04:41 PM	#14
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	This is a good point that I got from listening to one of Pizzola's seminars People using software get so wrapped up in the readouts that they lose sight on how to handicap the race.

12-21-2012, 05:36 PM	#15
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	I have been thinking about it and I guess the best way to pass or play a race is if it has value.Also if the race falls under one of your handicapping strengths. For example GL45, he only plays Mountaineer and only at the 5000 claiming level and race has to have more then 6 horses.He might have other restrictions but he seems to do very well. I remember back in the old Prodigy days I bought a software from John Rancount who used to own horses,it was called Horses n Courses.The interesting thing was after you input your data the program told you what horse to play and if you should bet it or not. I think the software was ahead of it's time as I dont recall any others that would do it. As far as betting goes I dont have the slightest idea but do know that you should have a game plan going in or it will be pure disaster.

12-21-2012, 07:24 PM	#17
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	Jeff, 4 mtp for race #2 at MNR..... 6/5-8 & 5-8 to win....... wish me luck

12-21-2012, 07:31 PM	#18
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Trotman, Your right Pino, Good Luck I thought Mountain was closed because I saw Deshawn Parker riding at Tampa, he has over 300 wins this season.