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08-30-2008, 08:54 PM | #1 |
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Eratic horses
How do we handle the Romero's of this world when they Match our Projected Pace???
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated *** Charlie - Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean by erratic? ** Richie P ***
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08-31-2008, 06:09 AM | #2 |
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Here are the full pp's for Charlies race. Can you give us a heads up on whether there were any scratches please?
Because he mentioned a proj pace (the ONLY races I FOCUS on) and I didn't work Philly yesterday (no idea result) I looked at the race. I don't know if there were any scratches but if the #6 raced there is my perfect projected pace horse using an EARLY horse. I got the race fairly quick to 2 horses. From there we go forward. If you do NOT know the result and want to participate maybe we could look at this one. IF the #6 raced this race has a lot of good vibes man. Win lose or draw. I'm serious. 1) PERFECT proj pace 1c-2c 2) Mind's Eye thread relevance 3) Multiple pace line "looks" 4) Early or O.T.E. If the #6 scratched I have absolutely NO interest in the race. Let's wait on Charlie to give us a heads up on scratches. Here is the field with no marks of any kind. I'll be in and out here today because I am helping my neighbor move.
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08-31-2008, 06:10 AM | #3 |
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Remainder of field
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08-31-2008, 09:52 AM | #4 |
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No scratches Richie
** Bingo! OK thanks C. ** RichieP
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08-31-2008, 10:57 AM | #5 |
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Hi guys
Pace was Projected off #6 @ 22.1 - 45.2 Richie, sorry, i missed your question in my original post By erratic, i mean horses that run a good race, then a poor one it is knowing when and when not to chuck these i'm having real difficulties with
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08-31-2008, 08:00 AM | #6 |
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Project pace from # 6 Means to win. 22.1
OTE Looks like a two contenders to me. #1 Prarie Lites and # 10 Smilin Riley I haven't looked at the results. I'll take #1 Prarie Lites. |
08-31-2008, 09:51 AM | #7 |
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Rich Charlie and Steve
I would think the 6 would be on the lead .. I am seeing it early The tandem race from July 13th race against the 1 and the 10 # 6 had to fight and was third behind much faster than anyone can do in this race I see the race Early 6 winning Thanks Bill |
08-31-2008, 10:52 AM | #8 |
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#6 Means to Win is my pick to win the race.
Running styles taking 1st impression QUICK: 1) Pre 2) Ugly 3) Ugly 4) Ugly 5) E/p 6) Early 1st fraction - 22.1 (tenths) races 1-2-6 7) Ugly 8) Ugly 9) Early/Press 1st fraction - 22.4 (tenths) is NO longer considered early. Press 10) Press Look at all pp's and note races of others against today's proj pace at 1c paying close attention to positioning at 1c. A) I am tossing #5 now as I move through. Only successful race against today pp is 5 lines down and in the last 4 races has gotten worse against SLOWER 1st calls. Hat calls that "not being able to get on top of slower fractions". #5 is now OUT win lose or draw. See 1st screen shot for my "look" at this point. The #6 is an absolute lone early horse showing 2 races consisting of multi call and stretch call FIGHTING in those lines. All the other horses are NOW going to have to run the #6's fractions or pace of race. 22.1 - 45.2 Here is the cherry again win lose or draw. LOOK at line 3 for the #6. I believe in one of the Mind's Eye threads you will see my post about the POWER of an early horse who can ALSO run OTE with a POWER MOVE. Jim repeatedly got me charged up about this. He LOVED these tigers man! Ok line 3 the #6 races against a FASTER 1c and from 2nd position (OTE) now he goes on to POWER MOVE and HAMMER the race winning easily. THIS horse is the same exact horse from the Mind's Eye thread. They have just changed names that's all. Find that horse then look at this #6. EXACT SAME HORSE. 2nd screen shot shows me adding that 3rd line down for #6. I have no "other horse" in this race though the #1 runs closest to him. #6. Only thing I will add is I need at least 2/1 to BET the guy. I look at line 2 where the #6 wired and won. I think that very well happens here. He was 2/1 there and if they give me 2/1 or better here I bite.
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09-01-2008, 02:54 AM | #9 |
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This term is not in the Mind Eye exercises.
Startin to sound like THE HAT. He did'nt quite have a definition when people asked him what or why is he called a horse " ugly ", and THE HAT usually says, " cause he is". Maybe "erratic" could also mean horses with no particular style and/or questionable fitness....one fair race then one disaster followed by a fair race, etc., So now the question begs to be asked:...... in RichieP's "Mind's Eye", what is the definition or qualifiers of ugly, besides horses that lines that are 5th thru 13th position at all calls with the average beaten length of 13 each call? Horse's that fail and collapse TOTALLY at todays projected pace with not even two competitive calls put together? VoodooFan |
08-31-2008, 11:13 AM | #10 | |
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did not spot this and this is where i went wrong in this race
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