Time for some help

[Charlie D]

All the last line tells you is how a horse performed in it's last race and NOTHING else.


Look at ALL lines - This is the horses "Picture" The "Picture" you SEE is how the horse performs against the different race dynamics.

SELECT horses. Horses that are the TRUE contenders in TODAYS Match Up.

[Charlie D]

The Pace Handicapper...

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is best served by following a regular procedure

1, Evaluate the Early part of the race.

Evaluate the chances of the horses involved in that part of the scenario then disqualify runners who don't measure up.

2, Evaluate the Pressers.

Most often, a weak Early pace picture strongly favours this type. They have first run at the leaders and must be given strong consideration.

3, Consider the Closers.

In most races these are the least probable winners. Avoid closers that are unable to reach a striking position by the stretch call. They are proven losers at every track in the country and only win with a complete collapse of the pace.


The format is simple. Unfortunately, most players have little organization in their approach and often proceed too quickly to betting decision. This procedure will give each type it's proper due. It will also ensure adequate understanding of the pace picture for the race you are about to bet.



Modern Pace Handicapping by Tom Brohamer.

You are supposed to be PACE handicappers like Tom Brohamer. How the hell can you evaluate a HORSE from just ONE line.

Look at ALL lines

If you read the above from MPH carefully you will notice he is working his way though the HORSES. Early horse to Pesser to Late . He is looking for the HORSE or HORSES that are the TRUE contenders in TODAYS Match Up. Just like The HAT.


If you have read what i posted and understood it, it should put you in a better position than most playing this Great Game.


Good skill.

[For The Lead]

Originally Posted by Charlie D

You are supposed to be PACE handicappers like Tom Brohamer. How the hell can you evaluate a HORSE from just ONE line.

Look at ALL lines

If you read the above from MPH carefully you will notice he is working his way though the HORSES. Early horse to Pesser to Late . He is looking for the HORSE or HORSES that are the TRUE contenders in TODAYS Match Up. Just like The HAT.


If you have read what i posted and understood it, it should put you in a better position than most playing this Great Game.


Good skill.

Good post, just not on topic.

The topic of the post was HELP WITH LINE SELECTION for those using software where one line is entered to represent the horse.

This is more in line with "Doc" than with "Hat".

[Charlie D]

The answer to the question is not to select A paceline and the sooner the person posing the question and others understand that, they will be in a better position than most playing this Great Game as stated.



Good Skill.

[Charlie D]

This is more in line with "Doc" than with "Hat".

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The essence of the Sartin Methodology is the MATCH UP

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Doc Sartin

The Dynamics of Incremental Velocity and Energy Exertion is the fancy title for the MATCH UP which i believe was written by Doc Sartin


raw MATCH UP - Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw. Adjusted MATCH UP - Howard Sartin.


Both singing from the same page and anyone with a month or two of learning should know that was so.


Good Skill

[Bill V.]

Its been about 24 hours so let me jump in and comment

This horse was picked at random. It could be any horse at any track.
I was asked to help a pace and cap reader not with line selection, But to
give him help using RDSS

He wants to set up some phone time to go over a card
I told him . Before I invest my time telling you what you may or may not agree
with Let me see what you think.

Since we have been working together in Private messages I wanted to see how he would respond to the question "which paceline would YOU use"

he has not answered yet Maybe he is busy or taking his time
thinking of what I think is right or wrong NO >> Ithat is the reason I put
in the line There is no right or wrong answer

I posted it here because I feel heling one client in private gets 1 person help Doing the same work here might help many more people and It is work

Now 7 people answered the question
Mile Sal - Line1
RVerge - Line 2-3
SilentRun - Line2
Profiler - Line 1
AtlasAxis- Line 3
For The lead Line 1
Charlie - All Lines

If one or all 7 of those who answered had been the one who asked for help
Based on there answers I would know what they think

So There are no right or wrong answers
Not one of the 7 who answered is right or wrong

The person who comes closes to my thinking is Rverge

Here is my answer Best of the Last Three Comparable

All three lines are from PARX Politically correct Binder
All three lines are at 6.0 furlongs
All three lines are 5000 Claimers same as this race
All three lines have close speed ratings and less than 7.5 BL

The First thing I tell anybody who asks me for help is They must read
follow Ups 70 -88

If the man who asked me for my help answered. I would have been very happy if he
followed me My choice line 2 and 3
here are my reasons with screen shots and clips fro follow up 78 and 82

[Bill V.]

I wish I had the file i Validator format but I don't
But RDSS perceptor total lie score works just like the F6 function in Validator

[Bill V.]

The F6 or preceptor total line score

[mikesal57]

not to beat this to death...

seeing last line of a slower 1c and 2c and still this horse still couldnt do much with that compared to lines 2 and 3 shows me that the horse is declining in form.
Add to the fact that he was scratched when he should have been in excellent shape for a return, confirms me that something is wrong...

besides picking lines you need to "read" into what has been happening to get a "story" about the horse leading into today's race

Chef...thxs for adding him to your watch list...pls inform us when hes running again..very curious!!

mike

[Charlie D]

Some interesting statements on Bills screenshots, in particular, paragraph one of the first screenshot.

I've never entered every horse except for demonstrations.With a little practice you get a feel for the Top 5 TE horses. They become quite obvious when you examine thier pacelines. Sometimes you will have to view more than one paceline to get a true picture

I have highlighted some words. I've done this because i think it shows Doc is using the best program ever created and this process is very similar to Jim and Tom.


Remember. The Software is just a tool and it can not think. If you input Garbage, you will get a grabage output.

Good skill.