The Importance Of An Automatic Accurate Pace Projection Feature In Your Software

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The Importance Of An Automatic Accurate Pace Projection Feature In Your Software

I will let you be the judge. I am of the opinion that this feature is imperative.
Synergism 3, 4 and MPH has this. MPH is Ken Massa's Prerequisite to HTR.
Here's an example race from PHA which dates back to 2006.
I used the Randy Giles multipliers for dirt surfaces by distance for PHA or PRX as it is now called.

[Bill V.]

Hi Bill


I see the horse you named late has a crazy %med number like 75
and I see 3 others over 70 %

To me if those are representative pacelines Thats all I need to
see to tell me the pace will be crazy fast

also the e/l sticks will be big on the early side

Thats how judge the pace of race

GS
Bill

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Bill V.
Hi Bill

I see the horse you named late has a crazy %med number like 75
and I see 3 others over 70 %

To me if those are representative pacelines Thats all I need to
see to tell me the pace will be crazy fast

also the e/l sticks will be big on the early side

Thats how judge the pace of race

GS
Bill
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I guess we all have different interpretations and approaches to a given race.
Yours seems to be a more generalized approach. I believe mine is more mathematically precise. However, I have no fault with what you do.
As far as the "sticks" are concerned, they will not show you that an early horse can also be the best sustained horse and can actually be misleading.

[Bill V.]

Ok very good . Hope you get what you need in future
versions of RDSS

Good Skill
Bill

[Ted Craven]

Bill H,

I invite you to continue this discussion perhaps using some current races so we can compare in RDSS.

Ted

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Ted Craven

Bill H,

I invite you to continue this discussion perhaps using some current races so we can compare in RDSS.

Ted

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Actually, the file I used was for example purposes and one of the 2 files I had in my Synergism 3 directory. This was time efficient for my post this morning..
I would prefer to use files that are more current because I believe that RDSS and the Trackmaster files will bring the winners to the top.
I also believe that RDSS and Synergism are a winning combination and will be very useful for one horse win bettors and contest players.

I appreciate and give you credit for your willingness to listen and your open minded attitude towards possible new innovations for your software. It tells me that you are a free thinker, have your own mind and do your own thing. This in itself will give you anonymity and the individualism you so well deserve.
My intent is to try and help make RDSS, a good product, great.
When I believe in something and someone, I will support them to the fullest extent.
Ted, at one point I never thought this would be possible. However, you did make me a believer.

[benzer]

My 2 cents. With the right pacelines a horse with a 75% median energy will not be a sustained runner. More than likely this horse will need to be loose on the lead to win.

The sticks are a great indicator of how the race will run but you have to watch out for the extremes on the sticks, the horses that just don't have the energy requirements for today's race can fall short of expectations.

[tom]

Interesting concept...would be very interested in looking at current races - a few of them - see how it plays out over various scenarios.

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One could also make the argument, base on your screen shots, that the horse was "early" and that is the reason it won. It was the best early horse. AND, it ran that way.

This takes nothing away from your concept. Determining whether a race will run early or late is certainly a key to picking the right horse, I'm just not sure this is the correct way to go about it.

Then, of course, there is always the matter of "paceline selection".

A "few" races is never the answer. It takes thousands of races to really get a handle on how something performs and each person would have to do it themselves based on their individual paceline selection method.

[gl45]

The Dream Race suppose to run in 106.7

From the pace lines selected each horse should run the following final times:

Lost= 109.1
Carla= 107.3
Late= 114.2 normalized to108.2
Miss= 108.8
Avary= 109.3

and the winner is Carla with 107.3
and the place horse is Late with 108.2
Two early horses, no need to multiply anything, the TS will give you the winner