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Charlie D · 07-17-2008, 01:19 PM

Jeff

Philly on 15th, 1 chucked out because of weak Fr3

Charlie D · 07-17-2008, 01:55 PM

This is worth a lot more than a 9-1 winner you have missed here

Quote:

The ONE thing that never changed in the 2 years I had learning with Jim.

The Power of the FIGHTER.

Houndog · 07-17-2008, 02:57 PM

Charlie, in Energy the picture seems to be less clear as regards to F3. You will get some races in RDSS that Energy misses; of course it works the other way also. I am not disputing the validity of either program as they are both very good tools.

I used the same lines and horses as you did for comparison purposes.

Houndog · 07-17-2008, 03:09 PM

Lady Grandeur picks it up in F2 in comparison to Inaheartbeat. Inaheartbeat could not sustain it's early advantage to the second fraction. In the EXDC Match-Up graph Inahearbeat has the 0.00 in first column; while Lady Grandeur has the 0.00 in the second column.

I see in the chart Inaheartbeat once again gets headed and gives way. Charlie I totally agree with "The Power Of The Fighter".

Charlie D · 07-17-2008, 03:23 PM

Hi Houndog

Shouldn't they be the same???

BTW, By posting the above i'm just trying to encourage Jeff, as i get impression his confidence is a bit low. He's got 1st and 2nd in his top four and if he is doing that as on a regular basis, he's on the right track and as Mike states

Go get em Jeff

Houndog · 07-17-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie D

Hi Houndog

Shouldn't they be the same???

BTW, By posting the above i'm just trying to help Jeff, as i get impression his confidence is a bit low. He's got 1st and 2nd in his top four and if he is doing that as on a regular basis, he's on the right track as Mike points out

Charlie, no problem I know you were just trying to help Jeff. The reason I posted the Energy screenshots was to compare the F3's. Depending on the RDSS setup (Validator or Speculator mode) that will change the readouts. Also if you are using the ITV or not makes a difference. In Energy as you know the adjustments are made by the horses entered. RDSS uses the Track Variants and the ITV in the adjustment process. Turning off both the Track Variant and ITV in RDSS and probably using Validator mode will probably most closely resemble the readout you get in the Energy program.

What both programs point out is the weak turn time Inaheartbeat has in comparison to Lady Grandeur.

Charlie D · 07-17-2008, 03:46 PM

I see,

i didn't use anything but the Match UP of raw times and intution for this race, which showed the #1 would get pressure and thus collapse as it had done previously with race going OTE

Though they are useful, don't rely on computer readouts too much guys is my advice

Chucking out the 1 made it

Condender - fair odds

#2 - 1.27
#3 - 4.57

horses at the head of the market can be exceptional value

shoeless · 07-17-2008, 03:52 PM

Thanks Mike,Richie,Charlie,Houndog very much appreciated.

Richie,You might be right about Lehane.

BladeRunner · 07-18-2008, 09:55 PM

Hello Gentlemen,
I am new here. I have playing this game for a long time and I can tell you that I always lost more then I won until I started lurking around here. I have
learned quite a bit from here that I don't know how to thank you.

Shoeless has interesting questions and you guys always helping, in fact others reading this also learning. I am going to start donating to this board as a appreciation for all the help I have got from here.

shoeless · 07-18-2008, 11:22 PM

Blade Runner,Thanks for the post,Im glad somebody benefits from my excessive questioning.Shoeless

07-17-2008, 01:19 PM	#11
Charlie D Match Up Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,105	Jeff Philly on 15th, 1 chucked out because of weak Fr3 Attached Images __________________ "To me, The Match Up supercedes everything"

07-17-2008, 02:57 PM	#13
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Same Race Energy Charlie, in Energy the picture seems to be less clear as regards to F3. You will get some races in RDSS that Energy misses; of course it works the other way also. I am not disputing the validity of either program as they are both very good tools. I used the same lines and horses as you did for comparison purposes. Attached Images

07-17-2008, 03:09 PM	#14
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Lady Turn Time Lady Grandeur picks it up in F2 in comparison to Inaheartbeat. Inaheartbeat could not sustain it's early advantage to the second fraction. In the EXDC Match-Up graph Inahearbeat has the 0.00 in first column; while Lady Grandeur has the 0.00 in the second column. I see in the chart Inaheartbeat once again gets headed and gives way. Charlie I totally agree with "The Power Of The Fighter".

07-17-2008, 03:23 PM	#15
Charlie D Match Up Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,105	Hi Houndog Shouldn't they be the same??? BTW, By posting the above i'm just trying to encourage Jeff, as i get impression his confidence is a bit low. He's got 1st and 2nd in his top four and if he is doing that as on a regular basis, he's on the right track and as Mike states Go get em Jeff __________________ "To me, The Match Up supercedes everything" Last edited by Charlie D; 07-17-2008 at 03:34 PM.

07-17-2008, 03:46 PM	#17
Charlie D Match Up Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,105	I see, i didn't use anything but the Match UP of raw times and intution for this race, which showed the #1 would get pressure and thus collapse as it had done previously with race going OTE Though they are useful, don't rely on computer readouts too much guys is my advice Chucking out the 1 made it Condender - fair odds #2 - 1.27 #3 - 4.57 horses at the head of the market can be exceptional value __________________ "To me, The Match Up supercedes everything" Last edited by Charlie D; 07-17-2008 at 03:51 PM.

07-17-2008, 03:52 PM	#18
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Thanks Mike,Richie,Charlie,Houndog very much appreciated. Richie,You might be right about Lehane.

07-18-2008, 09:55 PM	#19
BladeRunner Grade 3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 65	Hello Gentlemen, I am new here. I have playing this game for a long time and I can tell you that I always lost more then I won until I started lurking around here. I have learned quite a bit from here that I don't know how to thank you. Shoeless has interesting questions and you guys always helping, in fact others reading this also learning. I am going to start donating to this board as a appreciation for all the help I have got from here.

07-18-2008, 11:22 PM	#20
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Blade Runner,Thanks for the post,Im glad somebody benefits from my excessive questioning.Shoeless

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