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Grandpa's Girl · 02-03-2009, 04:03 AM

My Family and I would Like To thank ALL OF YOU for all for your kind words regarding my Grandfather.
This all seems so sureal to me. I guess in many ways I never viewed my Grandfather as mortal, with a time line. I never thought I would ever live a day with out him in the Physical Form.

As much as I hung out at the old Office and attented Seminars around the country, I never really got it.
I never learned to read a racing form. I still Dont know what a pace line is. I would Go to the races because I loved the pretty horses. I thought at one time I wanted to be a jockey because I loved to ride. When I reached 5'2 I realized I was too tall.

My Grandfather was, and will always be my hero. I fawned over him, Loved hanging out with him, Loved going to dinners with the "Gang".
I knew he was a teacher, and a Mentor. That was evident at every packed seminar, and class in that tiny Beaumont Ca. Office.
People would always ask me if I knew how great a man he was? I would think Yeah I know. As a teenager how could I have guessed.

I did not fully understand until right now. My grandfather was not just MY hero. He is a legand.

As I read some of these Posts, I am absoulutly awestruck. My Grandfathers impact went far beyond a yellow manual and a dry erase board.
it brings such joy to my heart to know that He helped change lives, and touched the hearts of so many.

I am truly blessed to have spent 34 years with that man. To have been there in his Hayday, and on his last day.
He was a class act. He could be all dressed up for a swanky Vegas night out, Or in his smoking jacket and mismatched slippers eating popsicals in bed.

He was the one who Pushed me to succeed, The strong disiplinarian. There was no such thing Is "I cant" or " I give Up". He was also a Push over, and a big softy. when I recently brought home the 11th stray dog ( 6 at my grandparents... 5 with me) he shouted "NO MORE DOGS"!!!! I don't think I have to tell you who the dog ended up cuddled up to at night.
He is the man that taught me everything I know about Frank Sinatra, Count Basie , and Glen Gould. He is also the man who would sit and watch bad Madonna impersanations with me on American Idol.

He is , and will always be the most important man in my life. He held strong to his convictions, and left this earth with Dignity, Love and kindness in his heart, and peace in his soul.

It brings such joy to my heart to know that He helped change lives, and touched the hearts of so many. I am sure he is looking down, and he is so proud.
He lives on... Because of all of you.

Thank You Thank You Thank You,
Mariana "Pilar" Sartin

PS... I am Very Sure That My Grandpa and Jimmy Are placing Bets in that OTB in The Sky...

Grandpa's Girl · 02-03-2009, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V.

A lonely man sits at his table He has come to the race track to escape the sad hard world
that has ripped the heart and good feelings from his soul. He sits at his usual spot, says hello
to his buddys, Buys his coffee and racing form all in a over and over script.
Each day starts with a new dream , A dream of a life far away from all the wrongs that
have pulled him down . He lives to get out to the race track , Today I'm gonna try this
This works for this author
Today I'm going to win . This guy told me to do this system He goes over and over and leaves
sad . He wants so badly to do something else in life His head is full of negative feelings
Love for him is not in his spirit or faith Its in a trip to the track to win
Then its back to the now He fights through life
Ignoring life's commitments and responsibility . He looks for friends and family
to coddle him. This poor lost man. Life is slowly slipping away. All he can do is
awake each day in a new world were this or that will win him races. If I could just learn to win
then all will be well . Over and over he dreams . He goes to the track happy. Most of the time he goes home sad
He has not won or at best he has a few dollars to go to the food store or maybe the bookstore
to buy that new handicapping book maybe even a rent a movie. Life is spinning out of control
Friends and family stay with him for awhile But friends slowly change or at least to him they
do . They look different He true friends buy him coffee at the track and ask him
who do you like Till he wins a race or two then they start to change The man
soon is all alone amongst a crowd Sadly he walks to his car and wonders what will change

The vicious cycle will be broken by a manual in a used book store A book called The
Psychology of Winning By Doctor Howard Sartin
Some how it happens. Could this manual be written for the sad lonely man. Time will tell
he carries it with him and reads it over and over. Finally a life script with a positive energy
Who wrote this ? What is This Methodology ? Can this change a life ?

My name is Bill Varone
I was lost and I changed my life. Today I walk as a winner
Not because I can win races
A man made something to help people win

Dedicated to Doctor Howard Sartin Ph.D.

"I may sound harsh but thats cause I love you and I want you to win "

Thank You SOOOOOO Much for posting this.
You are a big reason why my Grandfather will Live on.

Rxlawyer · 02-03-2009, 08:00 AM

I am so sad to hear that doc passed to a better place. He certainly changed my life for the better some 27 years ago. I will always do my best to honor his memory and the sartin methodology.

Gary l.

delmarscott2004 · 02-03-2009, 12:49 PM

R.I.P.DOC

Doc ,thank you for the positive mindset you reinforced in me , one on one , The Sartin Methodoloogy , winning at the race and the introduction to a great group of men and women .

My sincere condolences to the entire Sartin family and those friends close to him.

Vanoy Scott

delayjf · 02-03-2009, 06:29 PM

As I know Howard has not been in the best of health, I have been dreading this day for some time. In my mind his passing signifies an end to an era.

I was fortune enough to meet Howard Sartin when I was transferred from Pensacola FL to El Toro CA back in the early 90’s. I had read the books and wanting to learn more, so I took a trip up to Beaumont one weekend to check Pirco out. I walked into their office right off the street and was greeted by Mary. I explained that I was interested in the methodology and wondered if Doc was there so I could meet him. He came out of his office shook my hand as we exchanged greeting. He then gave me a personal tour of Pirco talking about new developments in the Sartin Methodology and invited me to a seminar in Beaumont that was coming up later that month. As I got to know Doc and Mary that day, it came out that I flew Helicopters for the Marine Corps. My occupation became an ongoing light hearted point / counters point discussion between Mary that resurfaced every time I visited Beaumont and I; who felt I should trade my Helo in and spend the money on education. In vain I tried to get her to enlist.

I did attend the seminar and did join the methodology. I purchased a copy of Synergetic Match-Up II – Doc gave me a copy of Entropy and refused to sell me Thoromation at that time. Over the years I did participate in several Beaumont seminars and a few workshops and seminars in Vegas, and Viejo Casino near San Diego. On several occasion I was fortune enough to be present when he would entertain with a piano that might be handy. My fondest memories of Howard were the workshop that took place at the State-line casinos previously mentioned by DJ of SD. We had a hell of a day and ate well that night. It was as good as I had read about in the Follow Up.

Doc was a man of obvious intelligence but was never condescending. For those who have never meant him, just looking at his picture could give the impression that he was a sullen and overly serious in nature. But in all my personal recollections of Howard, he was always smiling and joking, more of a handicapping version of Mark Twain. He had an ability to connect with people and bring the best out of him. In my opinion, Doc is an Icon in the handicapping world whose methodology inspired many to become winners for the first time in their lives. While the Sartin Methodology flourish and changed on its own through the years, it also gave birth to other approaches in handicapping that owe at least in part some measure of credit to Howard Sartin.

On a more personal level, I’m thankful to Howard for providing a forum for horseplayers to come together. Perhaps for me, the most rewarding aspects of the Sartin Methodology were the friends I made and the association formed. I am fortunate to count Doc as one of them. Visiting friends that live in Beaumont this past summer, I could not help but feel a deep sense nostalgia as I drove down 6th street past the restaurant just off the 10 were the seminars were held and then by the old Pirco office, reminiscing about the good old days.

To his family and close friends I offer my condolences – my flag is at half-mast in tribute to “Doc”.

Neil S. · 02-03-2009, 10:17 PM

As I had promised a few days ago, today I donated 10 percent of my profits from my winnings last Sunday to the American Heart Association in the spirit of Howard's desire that we "tide" to others our good fortune but also our knowledge.

Neil

RichI · 02-03-2009, 10:42 PM

May you RIP Doc

Thank you for your contributions for making us better handicappers as well as people.

My sympathy to the Sartin Family - The memories will last a lifetime.

Rich

SUPERTECH · 02-03-2009, 11:24 PM

Thank You for putting together a great group PIRCO and for giving me the hope of being a better handicapper. I never met you but I will miss you. May you RIP.

So Cal Al · 02-04-2009, 03:43 PM

Pilar
I read your comments about your grandfather with a tear in my eye. He was almost mystical to me while alive. His background in country music composition, being a relative of the great writer, O. Henry, his understanding of the human condition, and his innovative approach to handicapping were just a few of his interesting facets. He truly was a man for all seasons. I'm sure that you, Mary, Shane, and the rest of his extended family will miss him. God rest his soul in peace.

Al Borgerding

ignacio todoberto bernal · 02-04-2009, 08:31 PM

Thanks doc. Sartin.may you rest in peace.

My deepest condolences to the sartin family,mary,mary and shane.

Ignacio t. Bernal

02-03-2009, 04:03 AM	#41
Grandpa's Girl Grade 3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 55	Thank you!!!!! My Family and I would Like To thank ALL OF YOU for all for your kind words regarding my Grandfather. This all seems so sureal to me. I guess in many ways I never viewed my Grandfather as mortal, with a time line. I never thought I would ever live a day with out him in the Physical Form. As much as I hung out at the old Office and attented Seminars around the country, I never really got it. I never learned to read a racing form. I still Dont know what a pace line is. I would Go to the races because I loved the pretty horses. I thought at one time I wanted to be a jockey because I loved to ride. When I reached 5'2 I realized I was too tall. My Grandfather was, and will always be my hero. I fawned over him, Loved hanging out with him, Loved going to dinners with the "Gang". I knew he was a teacher, and a Mentor. That was evident at every packed seminar, and class in that tiny Beaumont Ca. Office. People would always ask me if I knew how great a man he was? I would think Yeah I know. As a teenager how could I have guessed. I did not fully understand until right now. My grandfather was not just MY hero. He is a legand. As I read some of these Posts, I am absoulutly awestruck. My Grandfathers impact went far beyond a yellow manual and a dry erase board. it brings such joy to my heart to know that He helped change lives, and touched the hearts of so many. I am truly blessed to have spent 34 years with that man. To have been there in his Hayday, and on his last day. He was a class act. He could be all dressed up for a swanky Vegas night out, Or in his smoking jacket and mismatched slippers eating popsicals in bed. He was the one who Pushed me to succeed, The strong disiplinarian. There was no such thing Is "I cant" or " I give Up". He was also a Push over, and a big softy. when I recently brought home the 11th stray dog ( 6 at my grandparents... 5 with me) he shouted "NO MORE DOGS"!!!! I don't think I have to tell you who the dog ended up cuddled up to at night. He is the man that taught me everything I know about Frank Sinatra, Count Basie , and Glen Gould. He is also the man who would sit and watch bad Madonna impersanations with me on American Idol. He is , and will always be the most important man in my life. He held strong to his convictions, and left this earth with Dignity, Love and kindness in his heart, and peace in his soul. It brings such joy to my heart to know that He helped change lives, and touched the hearts of so many. I am sure he is looking down, and he is so proud. He lives on... Because of all of you. Thank You Thank You Thank You, Mariana "Pilar" Sartin PS... I am Very Sure That My Grandpa and Jimmy Are placing Bets in that OTB in The Sky... Last edited by Grandpa's Girl; 02-03-2009 at 04:10 AM.

02-03-2009, 12:49 PM	#44
delmarscott2004 delmarscott2004 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County California Posts: 132	Dr. Horward Sartin R.I.P.DOC Doc ,thank you for the positive mindset you reinforced in me , one on one , The Sartin Methodoloogy , winning at the race and the introduction to a great group of men and women . My sincere condolences to the entire Sartin family and those friends close to him. Vanoy Scott

02-04-2009, 03:43 PM	#49
So Cal Al So Cal Al Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego/ La Quinta Posts: 214	Doc will be a Legend Pilar I read your comments about your grandfather with a tear in my eye. He was almost mystical to me while alive. His background in country music composition, being a relative of the great writer, O. Henry, his understanding of the human condition, and his innovative approach to handicapping were just a few of his interesting facets. He truly was a man for all seasons. I'm sure that you, Mary, Shane, and the rest of his extended family will miss him. God rest his soul in peace. Al Borgerding

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02-03-2009, 08:00 AM	#43
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delayjf Grade 3 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 74	As I know Howard has not been in the best of health, I have been dreading this day for some time. In my mind his passing signifies an end to an era. I was fortune enough to meet Howard Sartin when I was transferred from Pensacola FL to El Toro CA back in the early 90’s. I had read the books and wanting to learn more, so I took a trip up to Beaumont one weekend to check Pirco out. I walked into their office right off the street and was greeted by Mary. I explained that I was interested in the methodology and wondered if Doc was there so I could meet him. He came out of his office shook my hand as we exchanged greeting. He then gave me a personal tour of Pirco talking about new developments in the Sartin Methodology and invited me to a seminar in Beaumont that was coming up later that month. As I got to know Doc and Mary that day, it came out that I flew Helicopters for the Marine Corps. My occupation became an ongoing light hearted point / counters point discussion between Mary that resurfaced every time I visited Beaumont and I; who felt I should trade my Helo in and spend the money on education. In vain I tried to get her to enlist. I did attend the seminar and did join the methodology. I purchased a copy of Synergetic Match-Up II – Doc gave me a copy of Entropy and refused to sell me Thoromation at that time. Over the years I did participate in several Beaumont seminars and a few workshops and seminars in Vegas, and Viejo Casino near San Diego. On several occasion I was fortune enough to be present when he would entertain with a piano that might be handy. My fondest memories of Howard were the workshop that took place at the State-line casinos previously mentioned by DJ of SD. We had a hell of a day and ate well that night. It was as good as I had read about in the Follow Up. Doc was a man of obvious intelligence but was never condescending. For those who have never meant him, just looking at his picture could give the impression that he was a sullen and overly serious in nature. But in all my personal recollections of Howard, he was always smiling and joking, more of a handicapping version of Mark Twain. He had an ability to connect with people and bring the best out of him. In my opinion, Doc is an Icon in the handicapping world whose methodology inspired many to become winners for the first time in their lives. While the Sartin Methodology flourish and changed on its own through the years, it also gave birth to other approaches in handicapping that owe at least in part some measure of credit to Howard Sartin. On a more personal level, I’m thankful to Howard for providing a forum for horseplayers to come together. Perhaps for me, the most rewarding aspects of the Sartin Methodology were the friends I made and the association formed. I am fortunate to count Doc as one of them. Visiting friends that live in Beaumont this past summer, I could not help but feel a deep sense nostalgia as I drove down 6th street past the restaurant just off the 10 were the seminars were held and then by the old Pirco office, reminiscing about the good old days. To his family and close friends I offer my condolences – my flag is at half-mast in tribute to “Doc”.

02-03-2009, 10:17 PM	#46
Neil S. Grade 1 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 170	As I had promised a few days ago, today I donated 10 percent of my profits from my winnings last Sunday to the American Heart Association in the spirit of Howard's desire that we "tide" to others our good fortune but also our knowledge. Neil

02-03-2009, 10:42 PM	#47
RichI AlwNW1X Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12	May you RIP Doc Thank you for your contributions for making us better handicappers as well as people. My sympathy to the Sartin Family - The memories will last a lifetime. Rich

02-03-2009, 11:24 PM	#48
SUPERTECH AlwNW1X Join Date: May 2006 Location: Goshen, New York Posts: 10	Thank You for putting together a great group PIRCO and for giving me the hope of being a better handicapper. I never met you but I will miss you. May you RIP.

02-04-2009, 08:31 PM	#50
ignacio todoberto bernal Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: california Posts: 161	Thanks doc. Sartin.may you rest in peace. My deepest condolences to the sartin family,mary,mary and shane. Ignacio t. Bernal