Synergism 3 vs Synergism 4

[Ted Craven]

Good explanation Bill V. In RDSS2, Velocity screen, the relationships of % energy ratios, %Median and the ESP energy-disbursement style shows with a little more detail. The ESP labels (E/EP/P/SP/S/L) are actually labels for ranges of %Median - the percentage of Total Energy disbursed to the 2nd call.

[shoeless]

So then %early doesnt include the 1st fraction,Im still confused.


Also which one would be better to use

[partsnut]

shoeless

So then %early doesnt include the 1st fraction,Im still confused.

Also which one would be better to use

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I have to say that I'm confused as well.
My question would be: If both values are the same then why would some software give you the option of setting up either one?
To me, this would be questionable.
I know that % median is represented in the Energy % segment of the velocity & ratio screen (velocity-poh) of RDSS.
And there is no misconception here. The program so states % median.

So to me, it appears to be a contradiction of definition or could be a misconception and/or a misunderstanding of the two terms when related to the older software.

Here is a case in point:
MPH software gives a user the option to set up for either one.
To my mind, it would be absurd to have this option if the values of both were in fact the same.

[partsnut]

The Proof Is In The Pudding

Here are the 2 screens.
Median % and % Early Energy.
Being as this comes from the Brohamer software MPH
I would assume that my information is credible because
Brohamer indeed, wrote the book
You will notice that the values are completely different
and are in line with my interpretation that I gave to Jeff.

[For The Lead]

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Originally Posted by partsnut

The Proof Is In The Pudding

Here are the 2 screens.
Median % and % Early Energy.
Being as this comes from the Brohamer software MPH
I would assume that my information is credible because
Brohamer indeed, wrote the book
You will notice that the values are completely different
and are in line with my interpretation that I gave to Jeff.

%med or median energy is calculated as explained above.

% Early is a TPR calculation based on fps. As an example,
Say a horse has a TPR of 172.9 and an early EPR of 86.5, if you do the math it comes out to 50.0.

If another horse has a TPR of 168.5 and an EPR of 90.7, then that horse would get a % Early of 53.8.

[Bill V.]

Hope this helps
Percent early is derived from the Feet Per Second velocity ratings
were as Med % is from percentage of total energy

From the All Ways software website
Important Note
Doc Sartin gave All ways developers permission to use his Velocity Ratings

[Bill V.]

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[BJennet]

Originally Posted by partsnut

shoeless
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I have to say that I'm confused as well.
My question would be: If both values are the same then why would some software give you the option of setting up either one?
To me, this would be questionable.
I know that % median is represented in the Energy % segment of the velocity & ratio screen (velocity-poh) of RDSS.
And there is no misconception here. The program so states % median.

So to me, it appears to be a contradiction of definition or could be a misconception and/or a misunderstanding of the two terms when related to the older software.

Here is a case in point:
MPH software gives a user the option to set up for either one.
To my mind, it would be absurd to have this option if the values of both were in fact the same.

Hi Bill,

As others have explained %Med and E/E are two different names for exactly the same thing. I don't know why Doc decided to change - maybe Ted or Bill can explain. Re MPH, I would guess that Brohamer set it up that way so former Sartin clients who felt comfortable with the older definition could use it.

If you haven't noticed, the Sartin Methodology is full of differing terms and definitions for what is basically the same thing. Thus, TE, LS, Perceptor rankings, and BL/BL are very close to being the same thing. lAs Guy Wadsworth pointed out, Doc sometimes wanted to make the Methodology seem more complicated than it is. In later years, he simplified.

Most importantly, as far as the Methodology goes, no one understands it, including all the definitions and terminology more thoroughly or exhaustively than Ted or Bill. If they tell you something, believe it.

Cheers,

B Jennet

[partsnut]

Thanks everyone for the clarification.

I have to admit that I was confused as well on this point.

We have some very knowledgeable Sartin students on this site.

[shoeless]

Just to clarify then %med is the same as %E



I see on Synergism a readout TS,I guess that's for true speed.Can someone
please explain?