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Old 02-20-2012, 05:50 PM   #11
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Question contenders from races 8 and 9 Hawthorne Saturday

Race 8 , horse 3

Race 9 horses 3 and 6

I don't see any of these horses meeting your criteria. Can you explain further how you made exceptions in these cases.


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Old 02-20-2012, 06:53 PM   #12
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Smile Hawthorne 02-18-2012

Hello Bill Lyster .


There were 4 contenders in race #6 (2-3-4-7)
There were 7 contenders in race #7 (2-4-5-6-7-8-11)
There were 7 contenders in race #8 (1-4--5-6-7-8-9)
There were 2 contenders in race #9 (4-10)

You are correct on most issues. It appears i became a little (LOT) too
creative in my routine.
I'm glad you understand my method of madness. I use it at all tracks

It may seem a bit restrictive, but it works well, most of the time.

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Old 02-20-2012, 11:00 PM   #13
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Hello Bill Lyster .


There were 4 contenders in race #6 (2-3-4-7)
There were 7 contenders in race #7 (2-4-5-6-7-8-11)
There were 7 contenders in race #8 (1-4--5-6-7-8-9)
There were 2 contenders in race #9 (4-10)

You are correct on most issues. It appears i became a little (LOT) too
creative in my routine.
I'm glad you understand my method of madness. I use it at all tracks

It may seem a bit restrictive, but it works well, most of the time.

BobC
median energy profile = 68.35 === 8.5 fur winners
Race 6. contenders = 3-8-9-12-13 Top Apv-Class = 3-5-11-7-12

median energy profile = 68.80=== 6 fur. winners
Race 7. contenders = 2-4-5-8-9 Top Apv-Class = 1-8-4-2-3

median energy profile = 68.80 === 6 fur. winners
Race 8. contenders = 9-1-3-8-2 Top Apv-Class = 4-1a-3-7-2

median energy profile = 68.80 === 6 fur. winners
Race 9. contenders = 4-6-3-10-11 Top Apv-Class = 11-9-10-3-5


Bob,
Still confused here under a palm tree. I don't mean to be picky, but would probably admit to anal when it comes to following examples.

In race 6 the first post said that contenders were the 3-8-9-12-13. Now you are saying that your final contenders are the 2-3-4-7. Can you explain how the 2-4-7 got in the mix after your original post?

To some extent the example for race 6 applies to several of the races, so could you take us through one or more at your choice so we understand your method a little better.

Question #2:
Your APV/Class list for race 6 is 3-5-11-7-12, but the 13 is #4 class per the current version of RDSS2 (I am assuming that Ted is using your updated formulae for these numbers- not sure tho').

I am not so concerned that the finish was 5-9-13, but more how your analysis lead you to pick your contenders and on what basis you eliminated some of the APV/class horses.

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Bill
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:43 AM   #14
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Bob..
If you can give me a race to put up in advance..let me know
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Old 02-21-2012, 05:37 PM   #15
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A race from GPX 02-23-2012 / 2nd race

I have requested MikeSal to put this race on the board so i can explain the
contender and elimination process.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:50 PM   #16
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A race from GPX 02-23-2012 / 2nd race

Hello Bill. I have requested MikeSal post the 2nd race from GPX 02-23-2012

I will go through my process of elimination and qualification of contenders and
no-win contenders. I will also include APV-CLASS for the entire field.

I hope this will clear up any mis-conceptions from a previous post.

One final note. Apv and Class are irrevelant in races for young , lightly raced horses. This includes 2yr olds, and 3yr olds before August of their 3rd year.

The most important use of APC-Class becomes apparent in races for older horses. It is useful for separating ties, and finding place horses in exotics.

I have no idea how the RDSS software calculates APV-CLASS. I have not begun to use it, but i plan to in the future.

The Gpx race on 02-23-2012 should be interesting. Let's see if we can
break it down.
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I will put it up as soon as trackmaster lists this race
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:27 PM   #18
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Heres another that Bob requested

2/23 4TH
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