Try this - Pace and Cap

Tim Y · 05-13-2009, 12:37 AM

I suggested to Guy, and he was working on it, to establish an internal database to record, and average the winning e/l of each horse on the best of last three E/EP line coming into a race.

We were trying to establish an average e/l number per distance, per track and then overlay a RED line top to bottom, on the e/l screen to establish relativity of the field to the average of that distance. That middle line between positive and negative numbers, throws people off to where the median actually is per distance.

I use a red string that I hang off the top of the laptop screen and then place it down over the e/l screen AT THE POINT of that average and then equate the field from that internal standard.

That would be an interesting addition to the program if it could be included.

Ted Craven · 05-13-2009, 01:36 PM

'...record, and average the winning e/l of each horse on the best of last three E/EP line coming into a race'

You need to clarify, please. Do you mean perhaps: for the horse who won a given race, consult the previous 3 E/ep figures on the Energy screen for that horse and identify the highest E/ep value. Then, for that paceline, record the E/L value (perhaps subject to certain caveats). Store this E/L number in a database, by track, distance, surface. In new races, consult the average of this E/L number (or median, tossing outliers past a certain number of standard deviations?), over a specified time period, and overlay the number (or perhaps a range) on the E/L graph for today's race, both for individual horses' E/L graphs and for the horses compared to each other?

Something like that?

Ted

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Tim Y · 05-13-2009, 02:17 PM

Winning line: establish averages per track. distance. Use them as the midpoint overlay on each race that fits that standard for distance at THAT track

Your display is accurate for the idea

Ted Craven · 05-13-2009, 02:30 PM

Certainly we can, and will, store the E/L number for any paceline(s) selected by the user for the winner, then use those stored numbers, by track, surface, distance in average (or range) calculations and displays.

I don't understand what you mean in the references to E/ep you made above, as you did not confirm that my restated understanding was correct. It sounds like you're referring to some kind of automated method of storing an E/L figure for the winning horse based on best of last 3 E/ep figures, but who knows.

Ted

Tim Y · 05-13-2009, 02:34 PM

The IDEA was to have an idea where MEDIAN was for each distance based upon the line(s) selected for the winning horse.

05-13-2009, 12:37 AM	#1
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Try this I suggested to Guy, and he was working on it, to establish an internal database to record, and average the winning e/l of each horse on the best of last three E/EP line coming into a race. We were trying to establish an average e/l number per distance, per track and then overlay a RED line top to bottom, on the e/l screen to establish relativity of the field to the average of that distance. That middle line between positive and negative numbers, throws people off to where the median actually is per distance. I use a red string that I hang off the top of the laptop screen and then place it down over the e/l screen AT THE POINT of that average and then equate the field from that internal standard. That would be an interesting addition to the program if it could be included. __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

05-13-2009, 01:36 PM	#2
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,258	'...record, and average the winning e/l of each horse on the best of last three E/EP line coming into a race' You need to clarify, please. Do you mean perhaps: for the horse who won a given race, consult the previous 3 E/ep figures on the Energy screen for that horse and identify the highest E/ep value. Then, for that paceline, record the E/L value (perhaps subject to certain caveats). Store this E/L number in a database, by track, distance, surface. In new races, consult the average of this E/L number (or median, tossing outliers past a certain number of standard deviations?), over a specified time period, and overlay the number (or perhaps a range) on the E/L graph for today's race, both for individual horses' E/L graphs and for the horses compared to each other? Something like that? Ted Average/Median Range __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™ Last edited by Ted Craven; 05-13-2009 at 01:38 PM.

05-13-2009, 02:17 PM	#3
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Winning line: establish averages per track. distance. Use them as the midpoint overlay on each race that fits that standard for distance at THAT track Your display is accurate for the idea __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

05-13-2009, 02:30 PM	#4
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,258	Certainly we can, and will, store the E/L number for any paceline(s) selected by the user for the winner, then use those stored numbers, by track, surface, distance in average (or range) calculations and displays. I don't understand what you mean in the references to E/ep you made above, as you did not confirm that my restated understanding was correct. It sounds like you're referring to some kind of automated method of storing an E/L figure for the winning horse based on best of last 3 E/ep figures, but who knows. Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

05-13-2009, 02:34 PM	#5
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	The IDEA was to have an idea where MEDIAN was for each distance based upon the line(s) selected for the winning horse. __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."