Preakness - Pace and Cap

jms62 · 05-19-2006, 01:05 PM

Shocking.... No preakness predictions... Wonder why ? Could it be we don't believe what SPEC is telling us because everyone has annointed Barbaro as the triple crown winner ? I'll be the first to look foolish come 6:15 tomorrow.. My Top 3 BL/BL

1. Bernadini - Line 1
2. Sweet Northern Saint - Line 2
3. Brother Derek.... Line 2

Houndog · 05-19-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Shocking.... No preakness predictions... Wonder why ? Could it be we don't believe what SPEC is telling us because everyone has annointed Barbaro as the triple crown winner ? I'll be the first to look foolish come 6:15 tomorrow.. My Top 3 BL/BL

1. Bernadini - Line 1
2. Sweet Northern Saint - Line 2
3. Brother Derek.... Line 2

Just was curious. How would Brother Derek compare to Bernadini when using Brother Derek's 3rd line back.

jms62 · 05-19-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Houndog

Just was curious. How would Brother Derek compare to Bernadini when using Brother Derek's 3rd line back.

Line 3 is ever so slightly worse...

cprescigno · 05-19-2006, 06:43 PM

JMS,

You know I was looking at the same thing. I have a friend who normally sends over a two page analysis of the Derby, Preakness and Belmont Cup. Been sending it over for the past two years and he has cashed in over 30K in IRS tickets on the Derby and Belmont Cup last year. Hit the Trifecta on this years Derby. His write up for the Preakness and I quote
"Barbaro - The next Triple Crown winner"
And that was it.....so I looked and looked and figured.
Barbaro beat both Brother Derek and Sweet Northern Saint by 10 and 13 lengths in the Derby. That would be enough to eliminate them for me. Now Bernardini looks intersting with that 135.1 last race at 8F. The closest line to compare it to is Barbaro's 6 back 8F Turf race at 135.9 I think Bernardini's best races are yet to come but at the end of the day I would PASS and have to take my $20 and put it on another race where the rewards for bucking the favorite are better.
Then again, it's a horse race, anything can happen......we'll see.
Good Luck
Charlie

Houndog · 05-19-2006, 08:38 PM

I did this race using Energy and used 4 horses. I used 2 lines back for SNS; Brother Derek; and Barbaro. I used Bernardini's last line. No doubt to me this will be a good horse, but I think he needs more seasoning. I will supply 3 screen shots and explain why I think this. I did use the manual adjustment for this race because of the different distances.

Houndog · 05-19-2006, 08:40 PM

Here Bernardini looks good.

dugoutgold · 05-19-2006, 02:48 PM

I have the same here and Im sure many others do. Tuff to go against Barba even though the figs arnt great. Should be fun though to watch brother and Berna. Not really a trip handicapper here but in all fairness the horse mad a hell of an effort. Also Berna with only three starts could perhaps? be the spoiler...maybe Best Doug

i love this game · 05-20-2006, 10:39 AM

I think the tables will turn around today.Barbaro will bounce.Where did that race come from. Sweetnorthernsaint will run back to the haw race he ran.He got a pretty bad trip in the derby also.He was making a big move up the rail and had to check pretty bad .Desormeaux is not one of my favorite jockeys but when there is big money involved he gives a pretty good ride.I wish john velasquez was on him i would have more confidence in my bet.Believe me this is a serious horse.

Phase III Lives · 05-20-2006, 01:16 PM

I am out of practice but like Brother to hold off Sweet in a 2 horse race. I'm thinking BERN might bounce some off the great effort and going longer. I have no problem going against BARBARO but I also went against him 2 weeks ago. I sometimes can be stubborn. Brother was all over the SPEC Pre-race analysis having 4 of the first 5 sorted by TE. Bern has 1 and 6 but both were 8F. He may turn out to be the next Housebuster but I'm betting again him at long distances.

Fast4522 · 05-20-2006, 02:55 PM

Ok Let me wager capp this race, #6 Barbaro did the dance last time so he gets the nodd, # 8 Bernardini I will use in my box and under, # 7 Sweetnorthernsaint had some trouble in last and again using in my box and under, # 1 Like now may be the speed and again I will include in my box and under in the tri. Brother Derek just needs drugs. So 6/871 & 871/6/871

05-19-2006, 01:05 PM	#1
jms62 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 798	Preakness Shocking.... No preakness predictions... Wonder why ? Could it be we don't believe what SPEC is telling us because everyone has annointed Barbaro as the triple crown winner ? I'll be the first to look foolish come 6:15 tomorrow.. My Top 3 BL/BL 1. Bernadini - Line 1 2. Sweet Northern Saint - Line 2 3. Brother Derek.... Line 2

05-19-2006, 08:38 PM	#5
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Preakness Screen 1 I did this race using Energy and used 4 horses. I used 2 lines back for SNS; Brother Derek; and Barbaro. I used Bernardini's last line. No doubt to me this will be a good horse, but I think he needs more seasoning. I will supply 3 screen shots and explain why I think this. I did use the manual adjustment for this race because of the different distances. Attached Images

05-20-2006, 10:39 AM	#8
i love this game Maiden Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1	preakness I think the tables will turn around today.Barbaro will bounce.Where did that race come from. Sweetnorthernsaint will run back to the haw race he ran.He got a pretty bad trip in the derby also.He was making a big move up the rail and had to check pretty bad .Desormeaux is not one of my favorite jockeys but when there is big money involved he gives a pretty good ride.I wish john velasquez was on him i would have more confidence in my bet.Believe me this is a serious horse. Last edited by i love this game; 05-20-2006 at 10:41 AM.

05-19-2006, 06:43 PM	#4
cprescigno Spec Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 258	JMS, You know I was looking at the same thing. I have a friend who normally sends over a two page analysis of the Derby, Preakness and Belmont Cup. Been sending it over for the past two years and he has cashed in over 30K in IRS tickets on the Derby and Belmont Cup last year. Hit the Trifecta on this years Derby. His write up for the Preakness and I quote "Barbaro - The next Triple Crown winner" And that was it.....so I looked and looked and figured. Barbaro beat both Brother Derek and Sweet Northern Saint by 10 and 13 lengths in the Derby. That would be enough to eliminate them for me. Now Bernardini looks intersting with that 135.1 last race at 8F. The closest line to compare it to is Barbaro's 6 back 8F Turf race at 135.9 I think Bernardini's best races are yet to come but at the end of the day I would PASS and have to take my $20 and put it on another race where the rewards for bucking the favorite are better. Then again, it's a horse race, anything can happen......we'll see. Good Luck Charlie

05-19-2006, 08:40 PM	#6
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Preakness Screen Shot 2 Here Bernardini looks good. Attached Images

05-19-2006, 02:48 PM	#7
dugoutgold Grade 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	I have the same here and Im sure many others do. Tuff to go against Barba even though the figs arnt great. Should be fun though to watch brother and Berna. Not really a trip handicapper here but in all fairness the horse mad a hell of an effort. Also Berna with only three starts could perhaps? be the spoiler...maybe Best Doug

05-20-2006, 01:16 PM	#9
Phase III Lives Grade 2 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Md Posts: 94	I am out of practice but like Brother to hold off Sweet in a 2 horse race. I'm thinking BERN might bounce some off the great effort and going longer. I have no problem going against BARBARO but I also went against him 2 weeks ago. I sometimes can be stubborn. Brother was all over the SPEC Pre-race analysis having 4 of the first 5 sorted by TE. Bern has 1 and 6 but both were 8F. He may turn out to be the next Housebuster but I'm betting again him at long distances.

05-20-2006, 02:55 PM	#10
Fast4522 Former member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Gun Country Posts: 363	Ok Let me wager capp this race, #6 Barbaro did the dance last time so he gets the nodd, # 8 Bernardini I will use in my box and under, # 7 Sweetnorthernsaint had some trouble in last and again using in my box and under, # 1 Like now may be the speed and again I will include in my box and under in the tri. Brother Derek just needs drugs. So 6/871 & 871/6/871