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Old 11-10-2026, 01:50 PM   #1
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Big mistake

Hi All

This is what I get for NOT listening to what the program tells me
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Old 11-10-2026, 02:00 PM   #2
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So you would look at the sustained horses the top 2 are 3 & 7

Result

3 wins 13.40

7 run 2nd at (14-1) 3-7 exacta 194.00

I only have myself to blame,I did put 1,4.5 on top of 7. Funny
thing is I was all happy I thought I hit it. I got the 3 & 4 confused about
it.

Hope Ray doesn't see this he will give me He** about it

I don't mind putting up my mistakes. hope others learn from it


Jeff

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Old 11-10-2026, 02:25 PM   #3
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Hey Jeff

hope it is okay if i ask some questions
i am not an energy program user, so if this is dumb, please excuse it

i notice a LOT of the time you guys post these shots
that there are generally 2 horses, not 3, for the paragon A, paragon B and energizer
a lot of the time, one of the 2 wins - maybe not the one expected, but one of the 2

assuming you picked good contenders

why not bet the 2 horses from the paragon A,B,energizer
so in this case, the 1 and 3
over your other contenders 5,4,4,7

so 2 win bets for $10 each on the 1 and 3
and then a $2 exacta with 1,3/1,3,4,5,7

that would be an 8 bet or $16 exacta

my guess it would come down to how well you get the top 2 in your contenders as far as profitability

when i am feeling better, will go back thru the previous energy screen shots on the site and see what kind of percentage it shows

best of luck
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Old 11-10-2026, 03:08 PM   #4
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is this the 1st at parx today
5.5 on dirt?
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Old 11-10-2026, 03:10 PM   #5
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I forgot this is 1st race today at Parx

Fisrt of all Dan hope that you feel better, I'm sure he could use
some well wishes here. I am not at liberty to say what it is.

Dan never thought of that, I'm not sure that would work with me but
probably would with Ray

It's a good idea though.

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going back a year of energy posts i get this







shoeless - 10/19 r8 parx
4 Hough = paragon a, b
1 Spike = energizer
left out the place horse

4 Hough paid $7.60 to win


shoeless - 11/10 r1 parx
1 crimson = paragon a, energizer
3 sushi = paragon b
4,5,7 other contenders

3 Crimson paid $13,80 to win
$2 exacta 3/7 paid $194.00


shoeless - 10/7 r2 delaware
4 = paragon a,b,energizer
other contenders 2,7,9

left out place horse, have to wonder about the line used for the 4
7 won and paid $5.80


shoeless 7/20 r ??? tdn
didn't have winner in contenders


shoeless 6/22 r5 parx
7 = paragon a,b,energizer
2,3,6 contenders

have to wonder about line for 7 - seems suspicious when a horse is all 3 as above
3 won and paid $3.80
6 place for an exacta of $8.00


shoeless 6/8 r6 parx
2 = paragon a,b,energizer
5,7,3,1 contenders

7 won and paid $19.20
2 placed for an exacta paying $138.00
once again, when a single horse is all 3 seems sketchy

notice the muv on the 7 - it is the horse closest to the dream race max











ray - 10/11 r10 woodbine
1 was lone early speed and won, paid $13.60
nothing else matters in LES races at least imo


ray - 9/22 r4 TDN
didn't have winner in contenders


ray - 6/21 r6 CD
didn't have winner in contenders


ray - 6/13 r6 BAQ
6 City = paragon a,b
4,1,8,9 other contenders

4 won and paid $7.10
6 placed for exacta of 29.02

ray - 5/8 r1 LRL
2 Whats = paragon a
3 Sonic = paragon b
other contenders 1,7,8

3 Sonic won and paid $5.20
7 Endless placed and exacta paid $17.60


ray - 5/7 r6 TDN
3 Mr. Looch = paragon a
6 Midnight = paragon b
other contenders 8,2,7

6 won and paid 12.40
3 placed for a 48.60 exacta


ray - 4/21 r9 PRX
3 cocktail = paragon a
4 sheta = paragon b
other contenders 1,2,6

1 won and paid 4.60
2 placed for 21.20 exacta


ray - 4/1 r8 tampa
4 Dominant = paragon a
9 Top Pocket = paragon b
other contenders 2,3,5

4 won and paid 4.60
5 placed and paid 22.80 exacta


ray - 3/31 r7 parx
2 ahsad = paragon a, energizer
3 diamond = paragon b
other contenders 1,6,7

1 won and paid $17.60
6 placed for a 48.40 exacta
notice something is really wrong on ahsad's data, it is 58 / 30 / 14 for F1,2,3 error here !!!


ray - 3.24 r6 MVR
6 Lady = paragon a,b,energizer
other contenders 2,3,7,8

8 won and paid 29.80
7 placed and exacta paid 96.60
whenever a single horse has all the top, it is usually not the winner in energy it seems


ray - 11/1/25 r2 BAQ
4 Cathe = paragon a, energizer
7 Amund = paragon b
other contenders 2,3,5

5 won and paid 41.42
7 placed and exacta paid 125.86
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