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Grade 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,019
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Woodbine July 3rd
Talking with Barb working the Woodbine Card for today:
Race 1 - Barb scrolled the field (5f MSW , turf) first feeling was most horses only have 1 or 2 lines, not playable as she is uncomfortable with what she is seeing. PASS Race 2 - Barb scrolled the field twice before doing anything regarding line selection, contenders etc. No major issues, comfortable about picking lines. Pacelines chosen: Horse 1 - line 7 Horse 2 - line 3 Horse 3 - line 1 Horse 4 - line 2 Horse 5 - line 3 Horse 6 - line 2 Horse 7 - line 3 Barb dropped the 1,2,5 to secondary contender status (she used the RX factor in her version of RDSS to hide and reduce these to non contender for WIN) *** I do not have this version so can't see what she was doing** Win Contenders in order on her "RX" readout: 6-3-4-7 ** Barb notes that the #4 and #6 are counter energy runners in her top contender mix. ** ** Barb will use post time odds and the layout in this thread as far as betting decisions to wager using her "RX" contenders in order instead of Bl/BL.She has a note saying if the odds are good the #3 will definitely be one of her 2 win bets
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Woodbine July 3rd
Race 3 - Barb has her notes saying too many horses with only 1 running line - PASS
Race 4 - 6f Turf sprint (G2) scratches down to 6 runners, Barb does races with minimum 7 betting entries - PASS
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Woodbine July 3rd
Race 5 - Maiden race scratches down to 8 runners but Barb notes too many horses with only 1 or 2 lines including some of the favorites. She likes at least 3 pacelines for the runners (right out of Doc's Followups). PASS
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Woodbine July 3rd
Race 6 - a nice stakes race going 8f on the grass. Barb scrolled the field twice just looking, then marking running styles and picking pacelines. She feels comfortable with playing the race and hiding using her "RX" tab she hides down to her top 4 contenders for the win which are in order: 1-5-2-9.
She feels the 1 is going to be heavily bet, leaving her other 3 contenders at nice prices. Barb has the #5 as definitely one of her bets, she is looking to play this race! As far as counter energy runners Barb has the #'s 3 and 4 as counter early, however she has them as NON contenders for the WIN leaving OTE as the winning "Style" for this race.
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Woodbine July 3rd
Race 7 - Barb is very comfortable with this race! After scrolling and doing her thing she has the field down to the 1a-5-1-4-6. Now because she has both the 1 entries in her mix she wants to remove one knowing she has them covered, doing this leaves 1a-5-4-6 and Barb does NOT have a good feeling about the #6 for the WIN.
** Barb's readouts are showing ALL runners after picking her lines with a computer generated ESP of L (Late). Doc has stated in earlier Followups that they used to focus on the late energy/ latest or longest late sticks for the WIN in these race types. In THIS race Barb has the #4 Macho Brew as the best in both of those categories as well as a strong contender in her new "RX" line. Old school meets new school! NO counter energy runners.
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Barb is going to work another 2 maybe 3 races on the card including the Queens Plate!. She couldnt leave that one out!
She is going to use the same exact process on those races, however I have to leave to head to a party in a few minutes so wont be able to report on them before they run. I will talk to Barb in the next couple of days and will report what went down.
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The egg man
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
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Line 7
Hello Barb and Rich
In race 2 are you using line 7 ? for horse 1 I'm so sorry I do not have my RDSS2 computer with me, Its a long story but basically my lady friend needs some of my "pay" programs for her business. So me being so thoughtful. All I have is my old windows 7 8 inch screen nextbook and RDSS just will not work on this baby ANYWAY Horse 1 are you using line 7 or was this a typo ? Thank you Bill Code:
WO0703 2 6.0 D OC 3+ $62,300 CP=$62,500 12:33PM 1/7
JOCK/TRAIN R W P S W% R W P S EARNINGS W% EPS R
DASILVA, EURIC 106 27 17 16 25 LIFE 27 3 6 5 264,469 11 9,795 7
MACRAE, DONALD 1 0 1 0 0 CURR 6 0 1 0 22,482 0 3,747 5
(c) 37 /GONZALEZ $40,000 PAST 9 1 3 2 107,316 11 11,924 2
ML= 6/1 D-SP 22 3 4 5 246,488 14 11,204 7
1 PUNTROOSKIE AGE=5 OFF-D
COMMENT:
EQUALIZED, NORMALIZED AND ADJUSTED
L DAYSTRK RCODISTSd 1STC 2NDC FINC BL1 BL2 BLS BLF SR ESP L PI
1 37WO 7FM 6.5T 23.2 47.1 110.9 3.80 3.00 0.00 0.15 81 1
2[ 64WO 7FT 6.5D 23.2 46.6 110.9 0.60 0.50 0.15 1.90 80 2 2 ]
3[ 85WO 8FT 6.0D 22.4 45.4 109.7 2.10 2.60 3.10 5.00 83 3 1 ]
4 105GP 3FT 6.0D 22.0 44.5 109.2 1.50 2.50 7.50 11.50 78 4
5 158GP 4FT 6.0D 22.2 44.0 108.4 1.60 2.60 4.50 5.10 89 5
6 169GP 6FT 6.0D 21.5 43.7 108.1 6.50 7.50 8.60 9.50 86 6
7 294WO 3FT 6.5D 22.8 45.0 109.0 1.00 0.50 1.10 5.50 86 7
8 326WO 6FT 6.0D 23.3 46.2 109.8 0.50 1.50 2.10 4.30 83 8
9 364WO 5FT 6.5D 23.1 46.1 109.7 1.00 2.00 0.50 0.00 87 9
A 385WO 8FT 6.0D 22.5 45.1 109.6 3.70 2.00 2.00 0.00 88 A
DETAILS
L TYPE PU/CP JOCKEY PP FN FD ODDSF COMMENT
1 CL-3+ 40,000 CAMPBELL, JESS 5 2 11 4.30 BMP START,CAUGHT LATE
2[OC-3+NW2 62,500 CAMPBELL, JESS 2 4 7 3.50 BMP'D STR,PASSED ]
3[ST-4+ 125,000 CAMPBELL, JESS 1 4 6 7.20 2W3W,EVEN FINISH ]
4 OC-4+NW2 62,500 LOPEZ, PACO 6 6 6 4.80 CHASED4W,CHECKED1/8
5 OC-4+C 100,000 LEZCANO, JOSE 3 5 6 19.70 ANGLED OUT1/8,NO GAIN
6 ST-4+S 150,000 GAFFALIONE, TY 7 4 8 19.10 3W-TURN,SOME LATE RUN
7 G3-3+ 150,000 CAMPBELL, JESS 4 3 4 11.90 GAVE WAY GRDGNGLY
8 ST-3+ 100,000 CAMPBELL, JESS 3 5 6 10.40 PRESS,BID STR,EVN OUT
9 OC-3+NW2 62,500 CAMPBELL, JESS 6 1 9 1.50* LED IN FINAL 1/8,DRVG
A OC-3+NW2 62,500 CAMPBELL, JESS 3 2 10 1.60* OFF SLW,FOUND MORE
WORK OUTS
5E(FT)WO : 59.0B 5E(FT)WO : 58.6B 4D(FT)GP : 48.5B 5D(FT)GP : 58.7B
4D(FT)GP : 46.7B 4D(FT)GP : 51.2B 3F(FT)WO : 37.4B 5E(FT)WO :100.4B
FREQUENCY
WORK OUTS 8 46 124 176 186 196 295 343 443 505 540 549
RACES 37 64 85 105 158 169 294 326 364 385 413 434
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bobcaygeon,On,Canada
Posts: 1,316
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No typo Bill - line 7 - BPC - looking at all PPs.
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The egg man
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 10,005
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Lines
thank you Barb
Race 2 I used your lines. The winner #1 is a Binder Improver but only paid $6.00 Code:
WO0703 2 6.0 D OC 3+ $62,300 CP=$62,500 12:33PM
BOTTOM LINE -- BETTING LINE (VAL4)
HIDE# PNcNAME LdT SR BAL LS TIE ODDS TRKDISTS M/L DAYS AGE
5 7 KITTE3 1 87 6 19.8 2-1 WO 6.0D 9/2 23 6
4 5 JACKS3 89 6 18.5 5-2 WO 6.0D 12/1 211 4
2 2 BEAR 3 1 87 6 18.3 5-2 WO 6.0D 15/1 15 8
3 3 NASHV1 87 7 17.8 5-2 WO 6.5D 3/1 28 4
1 1 PUNTR7 86 5 17.3 5-2 WO 6.5D 6/1 37 5
SYNTHESIS POWER RANKINGS AND FRACTALS
┌──┬─┬─┬────┬────┐┌─────┐ │ PRIM │ SUPP │
│ B│L│T│PRIM│SUPP││FRACT│ │E│L│C│T│H│F│F│S│F│E│T│T│
┌─┬───────────┬───┤ A│S│O├──┬─┼──┬─┤├─┬─┬─┤┌───┬────┐│P│P│P│T│E│W│X│P│X│N│S│P│
│#│PNcNAME LdT│ SR│ L│P│T│LS│R│LS│R││E│L│N││ESP│SCBL││R│R│R│ │ │ │ │N│ │T│ │P│
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│1│ 1 PUNTR7 │ 86│ 5│3│1│23│5│12│2││4│2│2││PRE│ 4.4││4│3│4│3│2│4│3│4│3│2│1│2│
│2│ 2 BEAR 3 1│ 87│ 6│2│4│20│3│22│5││3│5│5││EAR│ ││1│5│3│2│4│1│4│4│4│5│4│5│
│3│ 3 NASHV1 │ 87│ 7│4│5│21│4│13│3││2│3│3││E/P│ 4.2││3│2│2│4│5│3│2│2│2│3│3│3│
│4│ 5 JACKS3 │ 89│ 6│4│2│19│2│ 8│1││1│1│1││S/P│ 6.1││5│1│1│5│3│3│1│3│1│1│2│1│
│5│ 7 KITTE3 1│ 87│ 6│1│3│17│1│17│4││5│4│4││EAR│ 0.3││2│4│2│1│1│2│5│1│5│4│3│4│
└─┴───────────┴───┴──┴─┴─┴──┴─┴──┴─┘└─└─┴─┘└───┴────┘└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘
WO0 Code:
703 2 6.0 D OC 3+ $62,300 CP=$62,500 12:33PM
THE V A L I D A T O R (VAL4)
┌─┬───────────┬───┬───┬────────┐ ┌───┬───┬───┬───┬──┬──┬──┐ ┌──────┐ ┌────┐
│#│PN NAME LdT│SPR│BAL│ TOT-R│ │EPR│LPR│CPR│ TT│FW│HE│FX│ │V/DC-T│ │SUPP│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤ ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤ ├──────┤ ├────┤
│1│ 1 PUNTR7 │ 86│ 5│171.44-1│ │ 4│ 3│ 4│ 3│ 4│ 2│ 3│ │ 2│ │ 2│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤ ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤ ├──────┤ ├────┤
│2│ 2 BEAR 3 1│ 87│ 6│171.06-4│ │ 1│ 5│ 3│ 2│ 1│ 4│ 4│ │ 3│ │ 5│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤ ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤ ├──────┤ ├────┤
│3│ 3 NASHV1 │ 87│ 7│170.57-5│ │ 3│ 2│ 2│ 4│ 3│ 5│ 2│ │ 3│ │ 3│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤ ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤ ├──────┤ ├────┤
│4│ 5 JACKS3 │ 89│ 6│171.36-2│ │ 5│ 1│ 1│ 5│ 3│ 3│ 1│ │ 1│ │ 1│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤ ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤ ├──────┤ ├────┤
│5│ 7 KITTE3 1│ 87│ 6│171.07-3│ │ 2│ 4│ 2│ 1│ 2│ 1│ 5│ │ 1│ │ 4│
└─┴───────────┴───┴───┴────────┘
└───┴───┴───┴───┴──┴──┴──┘ └──────┘ └────┘
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Abiding Student
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Nashville/Whitefish
Posts: 714
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Thank you!
Barb and Richie,
Thank you for sharing your criteria of the races to play and your method of evaluating contenders and deciding which horses to bet. It's very helpful. What jumped out at me immediately is that I am betting too many races. I was traveling yesterday and unable to play. Going back over the card this morning, however, I know that I would have bet several of the races that Barb passed and wisely so. Looking forward to Woodbine in August. |
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